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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

‘Existential threat’ - Mehdi Hasan on Trump, Farage and Gaza

Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Channel 4 News

Society & Culture

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Mehdi Hasan is a prominent broadcast journalist in America who’s forthright anti-Trump and pro-Palestinian opinions have thrust him to the fore of many of the big issues facing the country today. 

He is the founder and editor-in-chief of Zeteo, previously hosting The Mehdi Hasan Show on MSNBC, and his work straddles the line between conventional journalism and advocacy-driven argument. 

In this episode of Ways to Change the World he tells Krishnan Guru-Murthy why he believes American democracy is facing an “existential threat’, what he expects to happen next in Gaza and whether Labour can withstand the rise of Nigel Farage’s Reform UK. 

In the podcast, Mehdi makes accusations against several US companies. 

Comcast rejects any suggestions it may have engaged in misconduct by donating to the new $400 million ballroom under construction at the Trump White House. Responding to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who asked the media and Internet company if there had been a quid pro quo, they said: “Comcast’s pledged donation included no specific limitations or conditions on how the proceeds were to be used or spent. Furthermore, Comcast made the donation with no expectations of receiving anything in return and the implication that the donation has anything to do with a potential transaction involving Warner Brothers Discovery is categorically false.”

When Paramount settled their lawsuit with President Trump they said the money was going to be allocated to Trump's future presidential library, not paid to him "directly or indirectly".

The company also noted the settlement does not include a statement of apology or regret.

Responding to reports in the Financial Times that a donor to Donald Trump’s reelection campaign had received the first barrels of oil obtained from Venezuela after America seized president Maduro, a White House spokesman said: “President Trump always does what is in the best interest of the American people, such as brokering this historic energy deal with Venezuela immediately following the arrest of narcoterrorist Nicolás Maduro. The media’s continued attempts to fabricate conflicts of interest are a tired attempt to distract from the incredible work only this president is capable of achieving.” 

The White House has also rejected accusations of corruption. 

Israel denies accusations of genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Donald Trump probably won't leave in 2028.

0:01.9

I would not shock me at all if he tries to run again or if he tries to cancel or postpone elections.

0:06.5

I think American democracy faces an existential threat.

0:08.6

It has since he came down that escalator.

0:10.5

Authoritarianism in America is not going to be jackboots and concentration camps day one.

0:14.3

It's going to be Orban style.

0:15.7

It's going to be Modi style.

0:16.8

The leader gets his billionaire friends to buy up all the media.

0:20.0

And that's what's happening here.

0:21.0

The one basic lesson I've learned about politics over 25 years is you can't meet fascists

0:26.3

halfway.

0:27.2

People don't vote for fascist light, right?

0:29.7

They vote for the real thing.

0:34.5

Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World.

0:37.1

I'm Christian Guru Murphy and this is the podcast

0:38.8

in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas and their lives and the events

0:44.0

that have helped shape them. My guest today is Medi Hassan. Now Medi is a British American.

0:50.7

He has worked on all sorts of mainstream media platforms from Channel 4 to Al Jazeera,

0:57.5

but he now is an independent with his own platforms, Zateo, which broadcasts on YouTube and other

1:04.8

social media platforms. He is outspoken. He's a forensic interviewer. And he straddles the world between conventional journalism and advocacy and argument.

1:17.8

And there's a lot to talk to him about where the media is going and the role of journalism.

1:23.7

Medi welcome.

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