Exclusive: How Trevor Painter Is Coaching Keely Hodgkinson to Break a 40-Year-Old World Record — Inside M11 Track Club, the Chase for 1:52, and Coaching the Fastest Women in the World
THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
Dominic Schlueter
4.9 • 821 Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Trevor Painter doesn't coach world record holders by accident—he builds them, one hard session at a time.
Painter is the architect behind Keely Hodgkinson's indoor world record and Georgia Hunter Bell's World Indoor 1500m gold, and in this conversation, he pulls back the curtain on exactly how M11 Track Club operates.
He opens with what makes Keely truly special: not just her talent, but her composure, her work rate, and the almost unsettling ease with which she handles pressure. From there, the conversation moves into the unlikely origin story of one of the sport’s most successful coaching partnerships: how a semi-pro rugby league player turned 400m runner ended up building the most decorated middle-distance group in the world alongside his wife, Jenny Meadows.
Painter gets specific on the training philosophy that separates M11 from the rest: high intensity, low mileage, and lactate numbers that have left their own physiologist scratching her head. He explains why cross-training is baked into the system for nearly every athlete in the group; why Sunday is a sacred rest day even for the best in the world; and why he believes practice should always be harder than the race.
He also addresses the outdoor world record directly—what he thinks it will take, when he thinks it can happen, and why he called 1:53.28 untouchable when he first signed with Nike.
This one is for every athlete who thinks shortcuts are an option.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Ladies and gentlemen, today I get to speak with the absolute legend of a coach, Trevor Painter. |
| 0:04.6 | He coaches Keely Hodgkinson, Georgia Bell, Elise Cranny, and some of the other top athletes in the world, |
| 0:09.7 | specifically at the 800 meter distance. |
| 0:12.1 | Peely, most notably, who has one Olympic gold and is one of the great prodigies of our time. |
| 0:17.7 | She's currently training to beat the infamous world record from 1983, I believe it is, |
| 0:22.6 | that is almost certainly not clean. I'm okay stating that on the record. You can go look it up and |
| 0:27.3 | tell me what your thoughts are in the comments. But Keeley is an athlete for our time. She's training |
| 0:31.7 | for the world record. And I asked Trevor straight up what he thinks healy can run by the end of her |
| 0:35.9 | career. And he thinks around the 152 area mark. |
| 0:39.4 | I love this conversation. |
| 0:40.6 | It was a deep dive into one of the best coaches in the sport, his mindset, his journey |
| 0:44.3 | to get to this point, him meeting his wife, Jenny, and now coaching with her and learning |
| 0:49.2 | from all of her experiences as an athlete and now translating that into being two of the best |
| 0:54.0 | coaches in the world, |
| 0:54.9 | the best coaching duo perhaps at the 800 meter distance. Love this conversation, full of wisdom. |
| 0:59.7 | You guys are going to walk away an hour brighter, smarter, wiser, better equipped to train |
| 1:04.5 | and chase after your goals. If you enjoy this one, please consider sharing it with a friend. |
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| 1:31.9 | Without further ado, enjoy a conversation with one of those people, legendary coach, Trevor Painter. |
| 1:35.2 | Trevor Painter, what makes Keely Hodgkinson so special in your opinion? |
| 1:40.5 | It's all down to me, really. It's nothing to do with her. |
| 1:50.2 | No, seriously, Keeley's just one of those special characters. |
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