Can you say, do you know, I say Kim's name in German?

Kim Gottweild?

Kim Gottfeld.

Kim Godfold.

Do you know, we'll just start out there, Johnny Davies. We'll keep the Kim, the Kim, the Kim name in there. You were telling this to me a minute ago, so we'll start out the podcast on a light note. Great to have you, man. Thank you so much having me on. You made Kim laugh. Took you 45 minutes.

It took me a little while.

He was serious.

He was locked in during the race.

He had a, I'm pretty sure his strategy was, made him laugh took you 45 minutes it took me a little while he was serious he was locked in during

during the uh during the race um he had a i'm pretty sure his strategy was zero caffeine for the first

day or so um which makes things pretty miserable when you're going through those like really late

hours um i smashed my caffeine at 4 a m because i was i was doing a few little micro-sleeps and I got to the 4-am

round and I was like, I was in tears on the course. I was like, I feel so, so tired, so rough. I'm a

big caffeine guy. Like I love my coffees in the morning. I, you know, sing a few rebels here and there.

And for me to be running through that late into the night,

not caffeinated, falling asleep, waking up, running again, pitch darkness, it feels very

lonely out there. Especially some parts of the course, there's no other light sources coming in.

It's just you and your head torch. And I was in a real dark place. And so I know what that feels

like. You know, you don't want to smile. There are some things you can try and smile your way through, but and I was in a real dark place. And so I know what that feels like,

you know, you don't wanna smile. It's, there are some things you can try and smile your way through, but other parts of those races, you just, you're just suffering in there, and especially on those like really dark, lonely moments. And Kim, to make sure we can go run, as he has just done, obviously running into, through day two into three, has made sure that he's, you know, their caffeine hits later on as you go. But I did make him my mission to make him smile. He's a very serious competitor, as proven by his record over the last year. But for me, it's always, you know, big part being in part of these ultramarathons, especially backyard format, is you're all kind of running together. You know you're sharing that experience with so many other runners, and that could be people who's their first ultramarathon or guys like Harvey Lewis who've been doing this for years. And I think as well, as well as you wanting to perform well yourself, you also want to support other people, lift other people, help people get to maybe their distance PR, or maybe get to, you know achieve something they're really proud of and I think as much as you've got your crews there to support you and help you, you only see them for a very short period of that time. You rely so heavily on the other runners around you for, you know, keeping yourself entertained, keeping spirits high. And just having so many amazing deep conversations, you know, especially with a race like this, it means so much the people who are part of it.

They've trained so hard. They got it on the ballot. You know, there's 12,000 or so people who put in for a place in this race and there's only 170 spots available, right? So, you know, you can tell how much it matters. People travel from all over the world to be there. And as a representative of BPN on course. You know, I do feel I have a responsibility to make sure people feel welcome,

supported, cared. and as a representative of BPN on course, you know, I do feel I have a responsibility

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