I use interviewing and interrogations changeably because then the world that came from truly

it's the same thing, it's a conversation. Whether it's me wanting a confession or admission or

information on the case, or even doing a business deal, you know, and I work in television and

negotiating terms, I make sure to hear what that other person is saying before I say, hey,

let me tell you what I want. Because also when I hear that I'm thinking, okay, this is what's important

to that, I can bend on this because I'm not worried about this so much, but this is what's important

to me. So I'll bend here, but I won't bend here and so you can come in in a more meaningful way

and connect with people. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast

in the world. Thanks to each and every single one of you who are obsessed with learning about your

mindset, learning about human behavior and learning how to make powerful decisions. Now one of the

things that I love about recording the podcast is I get introduced to fascinating people, people

that I've been or have heard of before, people who've had experiences that I can't even imagine,

people who've lived lives that are so extraordinary and today's guest is exactly one of those people.

Now I can't tell you how much I've been looking forward to this interview and today's guest is

another than Evie Pompora. Now she is a former secret service special agent. She was part of the

protective details for President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama as well as former

president's George W. Bush William J. Clinton and George H. Bush. She worked complex criminal

investigations and undercover operations, executed search and arrest warrants and investigated both

violent and financial crimes. Evie currently can be seen as an assessor on the Bravo series

Spy Games. If you've not seen it, check it out. Now today I'm excited to talk to Evie about her

amazing new book called Becoming Bulletproof. Protect yourself, read people, influence situations,

and live fiercely. And insight she shares the lessons from protecting presidents as well as

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