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She was the woman with all the answers, a trusted counselor, a guiding light for families navigating the strict values of the Mormon church.

Clients paid thousands of dollars a week just to hear her voice to have her tell them what was

truth and what was distortion. But behind the closed doors of her multi-million dollar Utah mansion,

Jody Hildebrandt, wasn't healing families.

She was dismantling them.

She convinced mothers to abandon their husbands.

She labeled innocent men as addicts.

And then she met Ruby Frankie.

Ruby was a YouTube star, a mom fluencer, with millions of eyes on her perfect, polished family.

But once Jody entered the frame, that perfection twisted into something darker.

The facade of the eight passengers' channel was about to shatter, revealing a nightmare of malnourishment,

restraint, and ritualistic pain. It wasn't parenting.

It was torture.

I'm Emily Campano, and this is the Fox True Crime podcast. The

The For years, Jody Hildebrand operated in the shadows of faith, using religious beliefs as a weapon to chip away at her client's confidence.

She told women they were finally taking their power back

while simultaneously tearing their homes apart.

Then came the summer of 2023.

A 12-year-old boy climbs out of a window in Ivan's Utah.

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