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Everyone is talking (again!) about a coming revival in nuclear power. What needs to change to make it happen? | More from New York Climate Week

Energy Gang

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🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

At Climate Week NYC continues, the hottest topic is the question of how to meet growing demand for electricity while cutting emissions. In New York State, electricity use is expected to increase by 25% over the next 15 years. To meet that demand, the state plans to add tens of gigawatts or renewables. But that is not enough. It also wants more “dispatchable, emissions-free” power to keep the grid stable, and that includes new nuclear reactors.

Back in June, Governor Kathy Hochul asked the New York Power Authority to move ahead with at least 1 gigawatt of new nuclear generation. And the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA) is exploring what it needs to do to make that happen. Doreen Harris is President and CEO, and she explains to host Ed Crooks that nuclear is a central pillar of an emissions-free power mix.

She says New York’s plan isn’t about bringing back old reactors like the ones at the Indian Point nuclear plant, controversially closed in 2021. The state wants new designs that are safer, modular, and more efficient. NYSERDA is leading a “Master Plan for Responsible Advanced Nuclear Development”, expected to be published by end of 2026, to explore technologies ranging from large reactors to small modular and micro reactors. Ed and Doreen discuss the plan, and the barriers and opportunities for nuclear in the US.

Support from federal, state and local governments is going to be essential to make new nuclear construction a reality. But backing from the private sector will also be essential. Nick Campanella is a Senior Equity Research Analyst at Barclays investment bank. He says new nuclear investment will move forward only if three pieces line up: clear policy support, customers willing to buy the power, and an EPC ready to build the plant.

Nick and Ed discuss the cost overruns and delays that have plagued nuclear projects in the West. Hyperscalers might be able to get costs down by committing to multiple reactor builds at once. The ‘first-of-a-kind’ project is always risky. The ‘nth-of-a-kind’ developments that benefit from the lessons learned on previous projects should be more predictable, and less costly. Nick believes it is quite possible that a final investment decision to build at least one new nuclear plant in the US is very possible before the end of 2026. If that happens, the first project to go ahead could be for large plants, not small or micro reactors. The US grid doesn’t need tens of megawatts; it needs thousands.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to The Energy Gang, a discussion show from Wood McKenzie about the fast-changing

0:09.3

world of energy. I'm Ed Crooks, and we're at New York Climate Week, talking to business

0:13.5

leaders, investors and policymakers about the biggest issues in energy today. Now, the hottest topic

0:19.6

here this week is how to meet the huge demand for electricity coming

0:23.1

from data centers.

0:24.7

One option that a lot of people are talking about is nuclear power, and that's what we're

0:27.9

going to be discussing on today's show.

0:30.1

Here's what's coming up.

0:31.1

There's three things that allow new nuke to be built.

0:33.7

Policy support, a customer that wants to take on a contract, and then an EPC that wants to build it.

0:39.8

We know that there's policy support. We know that there's customers that are willing to pay

0:43.6

north of $100 per megawatt hours for current operating nuclear. And now we need to figure out

0:48.4

who's going to backstop this risk and actually want to construct this and pursue it.

0:53.2

It's a big buildout. Tens of gigawatts of renewable generation.

0:57.0

But that generation necessarily needs to be complemented by other resources.

1:01.0

And that's where certainly advanced nuclear would fit within this broad category of what we call dispatchable emissions-free resources.

1:09.0

They could take many forms, but in our view,

1:11.6

advanced nuclear is the central pillar of the zero-emission electricity

1:15.6

that could encompass several gigawatts, if not more, of new technologies.

1:19.6

A data center, when it ramps, all these deals,

1:22.6

we're going to have a little bit of power in 27.

1:25.6

We're going to have a lot more power in 28.

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