As the pressure for climate action fades, what is driving investment in clean energy? | The big talking points from New York Climate Week
Energy Gang
Wood Mackenzie
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🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
It’s New York Climate Week this week, and we’re bringing you highlights from all the key debates and discussions. Climate Week NYC is one of the most important gatherings in the energy calendar, bringing together business leaders, investors, scientists, campaigners and policymakers to discuss the global effort to prevent catastrophic global warming.
Last year, confidence in renewable energy was riding high, but now the conversation is shifting toward the challenge of meeting rising electricity demand. The race to achieve the most advanced AI capabilities is widely seen in the energy industry as the most urgent issue it is facing today. And that is creating challenges for the drive towards decarbonization.
At the Climate Week opening ceremony, Simon Stiell, Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC, said that climate advocates have “not explained to people in the right way what needs to be done”. He urged them to connect their messaging to immediate, everyday issues rather than distant disasters.
To discuss all this, host Ed Crooks is joined by Helen Clarkson, CEO of the Climate Group, which puts on the event. She describes Climate Week NYC as the “green room for COP,” a place to sharpen focus before the big UN negotiations that are this year being held in Belem, Brazil, in November. While climate ambition is clearly faltering in the US, she says, there are rapid shifts under way elsewhere, such as the explosion of cheap rooftop solar in Pakistan. As this divide opens up between the US building on its strengths in fossil fuels, and other countries embracing low-carbon technologies, America risks losing competitiveness, she warns.
Plus, the financial analyst’s view on the big themes of the week. Will Thompson is a Director in the Thematic Investment Research Team at Barclays Investment Bank, and he spends a lot of his time at the moment thinking about the intersection of AI and energy. He talks to Ed about how AI is driving a surge in electricity demand, with US data centers potentially doubling their share of the nation’s power use by 2030. And he describes the “power wall” facing AI: a looming bottleneck when companies want more power than the grid can provide. To overcome this, tech giants are moving toward distributed or “bring your own power” solutions, such as on-site natural gas plants and battery storage, he says. This shift prioritizes “speed to power” over cost and could push up emissions in the near term. Will and Ed discuss permitting delays, grid constraints, and fragile supply chains as the major barriers to accelerated investment in electricity supply capacity. There is bipartisan urgency in the US to secure AI dominance over China. Will it be enough?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Energy Gang, a discussion show from Wood Mackenzie about the |
| 0:09.2 | fast-changing world of energy. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Ed Crooks, I'm an energy analyst and the host of the show. |
| 0:15.0 | We're back in New York City for Climate Week, one of the biggest events in the energy year, |
| 0:19.1 | and it's bigger than ever this year, and we're talking to industry leaders, investors and policymakers about the biggest issues in clean energy. |
| 0:26.6 | Climate Week has in recent years taken place against a backdrop of confidence in the transition to low-carbon energy. |
| 0:31.6 | When we were here last year, market sentiment around renewables was still riding high. |
| 0:35.6 | Policy support for solar and wind and other |
| 0:38.0 | low-carbon technologies was strong. So where are we now? This is the first in a special series of |
| 0:45.6 | episodes of the energy gang that we're recording at Climate Week. We're going to be talking about |
| 0:49.8 | all the biggest issues in energy right now, including meeting electricity demand for AI, |
| 0:58.3 | breaking down the barriers to low carbon technologies, including nuclear power, and following the money to see where the investment is coming from and going to. Today, we're opening our |
| 1:03.0 | Climate Week coverage by talking to Helen Clarks and CEO of the Climate Group, which organises |
| 1:07.4 | New York Climate Week. Here's what's coming up from her later in the show. |
| 1:28.5 | Climate Week, NYC, has always been really important because I think we've called it sometimes like the green room for the cop. It's a moment that sort of focuses the mind. It's almost a bit back to school, you know, time to focus everyone. You've got two months or six weeks maybe to the cop. We need those NDCs. We need to kind of pin down who's going to be where, when, who's saying what really high electricity costs on the grid. |
| 1:31.6 | In Pakistan, very little regulation about you can just put a solar panel on your house. |
| 1:35.3 | People started putting up TikTok videos showing this is how you do it. |
| 1:38.6 | Very cheap solar panels from China and now you can just see the solar boom in Pakistan on Google Earth, even in rural |
| 1:45.2 | villages about 50% have solar on the roof. |
| 1:48.4 | That sort of shift is coming really, really quickly. |
| 1:51.0 | And so I think as much as it's about the US sort of rowing back, the rate and difference |
| 1:55.4 | of change across the world, that's the difficulty, I think, for businesses looking out |
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