Welcome to the Michael Steele podcast. I'm Michael Steele. That will be me. I'm joined today by Tim Alberta. He's a hell of a writer and hell of a good guy like him a lot. He's a staff writer for the Atlantic, the former chief political correspondent for Politico.

UllS. What else? Oh, he's just an author of the New York Times bestseller American

carnage on the front lines of the Republican Civil War and Rise of President Trump.

His latest book is what we're going to get into and is a doozy, the kingdom, the power, and the glory, American evangelicals in an age of extremism. Those of you listen to the podcast know how I feel about today's mixing the toxic mixing of religion and politics. His book, the Kingdom, The Power and the Glory,

gets into that full board. He brings credentials to the table folks.

As a practicing Christian evangelical, he investigates the corruption of American Christianity and why so many evangelical Christians support Donald Trump, despite everything that they know about the man, he's their Moses.

Reporting from outside and outside, hundreds of churches Christian colleges religious advocacy

organizations denominational nonprofits etc he's found a way to crack that coat a little bit and to help us understand just a little bit more what's going on here and what is accounting for Christianity's decline. My conversation with the one and only

Tim Alberta coming up next on the Michael Still Podcast. Hey everybody,

Hey everybody welcome to the Michael Still Podcast. I am so glad you're look all I got to say is you know get your

genitalic, get your bird bourbon, get a glass of milk or a cup of coffee, whatever floats your boat,

you want to settle in for this conversation

because I'm excited to welcome Tim Alberta to the podcast.

Welcome, man, good to have you back in the neighborhood.

Mr Chairman, thank you.

It's good to be here.

And I would, you know, I would advise maybe something stiffer

than milk for this conversation because, oh boy, by the time we're done, folks are going to need it.

I like that.

Something stiffer than milk well out there.

Well, the last time you and I would kind of dancing together was about 18 months a year ago almost two years ago and I guess down when your when your book came out which was the new of course a New York Times bestseller American carnage

which was just a fun read not only because I was a little bit in that book I do recall from our conversations but it's just it's kind of you know and really in a lot of respects Tim it sets up nicely what you get into in your latest book, which of course is a barn burner of a book,

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