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The Michael Steele Podcast

Quick Take: The Addictive Rush of Politics

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

This is an excerpt from the full episode, Why We Did It: With Tim Miller, which originally aired in July 2022.

Tim Miller joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, "Why We Did It: A Travelogue from the Republican Road to Hell." The pair discuss what it takes to be a player in "The Game," Tim's time working with Reince Priebus at the RNC and the kinds of Republicans involved in the transition to Trumpism, from "Messiahs" and "Little Mixers" like Chris Christie, to "Nerd-Revengers" like Sean Spicer.

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0:00.0

Hey Michael Steele podcast listeners, Michael Steele here with another quick take from the Michael Steele podcast.

0:13.7

Check out what's going on right now.

0:16.2

Welcome back to the Michael Steele podcast.

0:18.6

I'm Michael Steele and I'm having conversation with my buddy Tim Miller and his new book why we did it a travel log from the

0:26.4

Republican Road to hell it is out it is wonderful and it is well as I said from the beginning it it really takes a microscope to some of the some of the players who put in motion and kept in motion a lot of what we saw unfold over the last five years with Trump and even some respect still to this day.

0:54.0

One of the one of the aspects of this that I thought was very it was very interesting

1:00.0

was and we were talking about before we went to break the game itself and how that's played and you quote in here from one of the person who taught me the ropes at the

1:18.7

Republican National Campaign School, he said he said the highest praise one political operative can give

1:26.6

another is that they get it. Raising and get it is in quotations raising

1:32.3

about downstream harm that might be caused by proposed political gambit is one of the best signs that you don't get it.

1:40.0

And as we were going to break, you touched on that.

1:44.0

You sort of lay out that that line had blurred where the concern about the impact of what was being done was less controlling.

1:58.0

Because as I would from my own experience with some of these people and from reading this, interpret it as it was a better part of the game to lean further into those that political gambit regardless of its consequences as long as I could realize an upside or a benefit.

2:23.0

That to me was ultimately Ryan's previous.

2:25.0

I can share with you and we'll start now with the chapter on Rains,

2:31.0

which is called the Little Mix.

2:35.8

And I can tell you, there was so many points in here

2:40.6

where when you were when you confronted him and he was trying to explain

2:50.3

away and every time you saw him thereafter always kind of bringing back up wanting to get you to agree with his rationale

2:58.0

for sticking with Trump and promoting this bullshit.

3:01.0

It reminded me of my conversation with him

3:05.0

of why he stabbed me in the back

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