This is Leslie Kane and you're listening to that UFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy and I am joined on today's show by two guests with a bit of a European flavor

They represent the newly formed European Crash Retrival Initiative and they are also the co-founder of the Welcome both of you. Thank you so much. We're a pleasure to be here.

Good to have you on. Little peek behind the curtain folks. We're doing this with a

take to just with some connection issues on the first go but we should be fine for the rest of the recording.

So I'm going to come to you Thomas unsurprisingly first and ask you to give us a little bit about yourself

and how far back does your interest in the UFO topic go?

Yeah, thank you. It's a great pleasure being here with you and my background is actually a bit more further back than I first realized.

I had some early childhood and also teenager experiences that I kind of pushed aside.

But then in the autumn of 2022 I experienced four orbs flying over the old water tower here in Vestevik on the east coast of Sweden

together with my daughter and that was kind of a change of paths in my life and I started to go back and realize that other things that I've seen and experienced must also be part of something bigger like yeah the UFO

U.S.P. phenomena and I wanted to connect with people. So I started just a basic Facebook group called the Connection Group just to connect with people but also to connect the dots and you know finding pieces of the puzzle

the connection between questions that I that I had and still have of course. So from there on we just you know one two three to 30 to

300 people joined together in a network very randomly formed and then we developed into

UAP Sweden which is basically an organization that is not an organization we is just like on social different social

platforms and no strings attached so to speak and no basically structure in an all common

organization form and that's a very big liberty and freedom because we can do whatever we want

basically and we move and develop very organically out from the interests and different personal kind of passions for the subject.

And academics, you know go from their kind of perspective and me being a teacher and

an experience together with my daughter,

follow those threads

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