This is Ross Coulthard and you are listening to that UFO podcast.

Let's jump, that was really well put, so I appreciate that. I'll let you get out you get a drink of water.

Let's then jump into the listener questions okay and these jump all over the place which

I think can be a good thing a little bit chaotic here.

Let's do it.

So the first one brings up something you mentioned at least once in your presentation.

And so Strauat asks, could you expand on your skepticism towards the time traveler hypothesis? And what issues do you see with it. I remember in the presentation you mentioned

aliens could be extraterrestrials, shadow terrestrial, the time travelers and you have a throwaway remark, don't you?

I'm not really going into that, not for me, but yeah, that's for another time.

So now is the time.

What should this year?

Yeah, I love it. Okay, so what I actually have problems with or what are called closed causal loops. So if you watch, you know, most science fiction about time travel, there are closed causal loops right so so there's

basically two times of time there's three types of time travel fiction there's like

Terminator 1 style time travel fiction, right?

I won't, I mean, spoilers for Terminator 1.

It's been enough for you, I think,

so it's, it's been a while.

If you don't want to know the plot of Terminator 1 jump away and skip like 30

seconds or a minute. Okay so right oh my gosh what's his name whatever the

general of the humans against the robots in the future.

John Connor sends back his book. Yeah, thank you. John Connor sends Kyle Reese or something, right, back in time to save his mom.

And then it turns out that Kyle Reese is John Connor's dad so John Connor sent a guy who was his buddy to go back in time and

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