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You Can’t Make This Up

Escaping Twin Flames

You Can’t Make This Up

Netflix

True Crime, Documentary, Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Film Interviews

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

With its expensive online courses, Twin Flames Universe promised members would find their true loves. The online cult was better at making money than finding love, so leaders Jeff and Shaleia Ayons began matchmaking its followers with one another. Though many had identified as straight and cis, they were paired with same sex partners and prodded to rethink their gender identity. The Netflix documentary series Escaping Twin Flames examines the controversial online community, brings us into Jeff and Sheleia’s online classroom, and tells the stories of those hurt by its teachings. The series asks whether anything can actually be done to stop it from taking advantage of people who are only looking for love. Host Rebecca Lavoie interviews filmmakers Cecilia Peck and Inbal Lessner. SPOILER ALERT! If you haven't watched Escaping Twin Flames yet, make sure to add it to your watch-list before listening on. Listen to more from Netflix Podcasts.

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0:00.0

I'm Rebecca Lervoy and this is you can't make this up is the podcast where we uncover the true stories behind

0:19.3

your favorite Netflix documentaries and films. On today's episode, we take a closer look

0:24.6

at the Netflix documentary series, Escaping Twin Flames.

0:28.5

There are accusations of forced labor, sex trafficking,

0:32.1

and things of the like that I want to make sure that.

0:34.0

Do you hear at their own will, though?

0:35.0

I'm not sure if coercive control counts as own well.

0:40.0

Today we're talking to filmmakers Cecilia Peck and Inbal Lessner.

0:44.6

Thousands of people looking for their soulmate turned to Jeff and Shalia Ayan,

0:48.9

the leaders of Twin Flames universe.

0:51.6

Their expensive online courses promised members would find their true loves, but followers

0:56.5

found themselves in toxic relationships convinced by their leaders there was only one person

1:02.1

for them. The online cults was better at making money

1:05.3

than finding love, so the ions began matching followers with one another.

1:09.9

Though many had identified as Straight and Sis, they were paired with same-sex partners and

1:16.0

prodded to rethink their gender identity.

1:19.1

The Netflix documentary series, Escaping Twin Flames, examines the controversial online community, brings

1:25.8

us into Jeff and Shelia's online classroom, and tells the stories of those hurt by its

1:30.5

teachings. The series asks whether anything could actually be done to stop it

1:35.4

from taking advantage of people who are only looking for love.

1:39.2

This is somebody who's been in for a while, knows all the right things to say to keep people happy. And there's

1:49.3

not a word of truth to it. And I'm joined by filmmakers

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