I'm Rebecca Lervoy and this is You Can't make this up is the podcast where we uncover the true stories behind

your favorite Netflix documentaries and films. On today's episode, we take a closer look at the Netflix documentary film, Sly.

I'm in the Hope business.

And I just hate sad endings.

Sorry. Shoot me.

Today we're talking to director Tom Zimney.

Destined for bit parts and supporting roles,

Sylvester Stallone broke out by creating some of the most

memorable characters in cinema including Rocky and Rambo. But in a career filled

with unmatched box office punch,

many of Sly's films were ignored by audiences

and excoriated by critics.

Now in entertainment, Lion and Winter,

Stallone is ready to look back at his life and career. In the likely rise to fame, the ups and downs of celebrity, and his disappointments on and off the big screen.

I used to tell people, I said, don't ever watch the second half of any biography about a star.

Because it's always, and here at the the pinnacle and he had the world in his hand and then

well stay tuned for the fall And just a note later in this interview you'll hear that Tom was visited by a curious murder of crows.

And I'm joined now by director Tom Zimney.

Tom, welcome to you can't make this up.

Hello, greetings and good morning.

So how did this documentary come together? Was there a pursuit

for Sylvester Stallone for a chance to tell his story or is this something that he

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