Hey everybody, welcome back to Colts to Consciousness. My name is Shalise Ansela, your host. And we are doing a follow-up interview to an amazing, amazing interview we did with someone who left Gloria Vail. We've been trying to get her for such a long time. And I know all of you were as stoked as I was. You've said it in the comments a million times, but we're going to continue talking about

her story, what it was like deconstructing from the religion and acclimating back into the

real world or not back into the real world for the first time and things that she has been

doing to help with legislation getting passed in New Zealand to prevent these cults from doing

culty things. So thank you for coming back, Lillia Tarawa.

Hey, hey, nice to be here again. Love talking with you last time. So it's awesome to be back on.

Yeah. And we've had such a great response, which I told you off camera, I knew that we would

because everyone's been asking for this for so long. I was going to read one of the comments. Lillia Tatawa is so powerful. Commend you for having her on your show as a Kiwi watching all this glory veil stuff going on with multiple families. They all deserve justice. So I know we're going to be touching on some of that today. And I've already seen in the chat.

Hey guys, if you're watching live, thank you so much for joining us. A lot of people from your

side of the world. And I even saw someone staying up at 1.30 a.m. in Sweden. Thank you for doing that.

That's amazing. Wow. The dedication is real. I know. And if you have questions right off the bat, go ahead and drop those into the live chat.

Jonathan will be pinning those and we'll get to those in about five minutes as we go through her story.

So let's just jump right in. For someone who maybe isn't familiar with Gloria Ville hasn't seen the first episode,

can you just give a quick

nutshell version of your story so that everyone's caught up? Yeah, totally. So I grew up in a

very isolated religious cult on the west coast of New Zealand's South Island. It's called

Gloria Vail and was named after my grandmother Gloria. And the reason it was named after her is because the founder of

the cult was my grandfather, Neville Cooper, who later changed his name to a hopeful Christian.

And pretty much born and raised there for 18 years, broke free when I was 18, and have been

figuring out life on the outside since then.

Yeah.

I didn't realize that's why it was named Gloria Vale.

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