Hi and welcome to the working songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran trying to prevent AI companies from scraping the data off your website

or else a scrappy upstart using scraped data to compose thousands of songs that you'll upload

to Spotify anonymously. This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most

and iron-clad excuse to put off, actually writing.

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