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Welcome back OnScript listeners. This is Matt Lynch, one of the co-hosts of the OnScript

podcast with Matt Bates and Drew Johnson. We are now at the beginning of our autumn season.

And in just a couple months, we'll near the two-year anniversary of Onscript,

which is really hard to believe. Drew takes the helm in this episode and he interviews

Aaron Haim. It's a really fascinating discussion that I know you'll enjoy. If Onscript has

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Okay, let's get on to the interview. Well, hello there on script super fans.

This is Drew Johnson from the King's College in New York City, and today we're going to talk

a lot about metaphors.

Now, I know when I just said the word metaphors, I could almost hear some of you rolling

your eyes. After all, we often hear

people say, or maybe we've said it ourselves, well, that's only a metaphor. But what do we mean

by saying that? A new book on metaphors in the New Testament takes on that literal versus

metaphorical dichotomy, claiming that it's a false dichotomy.

Considering that Paul's use of the term righteousness, decaiosune, itself is a metaphor.

And so is redemption and enslaved, which means that freedom itself is also a possible metaphor.

And Paul, then it seems like we might want to take another look at metaphors,

even though they've been looked at time and time again by literary scholars.

Well, today I'm talking with Dr. Aaron Heim.

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