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Matthew Novenson – The Grammar of Messianism

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Judaism, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8666 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2017

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

With its messianic associations, pouring or smearing oil on the head is both foundational and divisive in Judaism and Christianity. Language about oil is—well, sorry—slippery. This is true in ancient contexts as well as modern. For instance, Trypho, a second-century Jew, is reported to have said: “The messiah, if he has indeed come and is somewhere, is incognito; he does not even know himself yet nor does he have any power until Elijah comes and anoints him and makes him manifest to everyone” (Dial. 8.4). Justin Martyr vociferously disagreed. In this episode, Matt Novenson helps us see that past analysis of "messiah" language has frequently contributed to the slipperiness, so new questions are needed. Listen in as OnScript host Matthew Bates and Matt Novenson work toward a more firm grip on messianic discourse. The post Matthew Novenson – The Grammar of Messianism first appeared on OnScript.

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Hello, OnScript listeners. Welcome back for another episode. This is Matt Lynch, coming to you from Westminster Theological Center in the UK. I'm a co-host of OnScript with

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Matt Bates at Quincy University in Illinois and Drew Johnson at the King's College in

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Okay, on to the episode.

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Anointing, christening, unction, Messiah, Christ.

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The simple act of pouring or smearing oil on the head is proven both foundational and divisive

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in Judaism and Christianity.

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This language about oil can be very, well, sorry to do this to you, but this language

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about oil can be very slippery. This is true

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in ancient context as well as modern. Disagreements about anointing and messianic terminology abound.

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For instance, Trifo, a second century Jew is reported to have said the following in his famous

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dialogue with Justin Martyr. The Messiah, if indeed he has come and is somewhere, is incognito.

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He does not even know himself, nor does he have any power until Elijah comes and anoints him

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and makes him manifest to everyone. And then Trypho speaks about the Christian community and says

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