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Welcome back on script listeners. This is Matt Lynch, one of the OnScript co-hosts.

I'm here in the UK at Westminster Theological Center. And my co-hosts are Matt Bates

at Quincy University in Illinois and Drew Johnson at the King's College in New York City,

although this year he's in St. Andrews,

Scotland. I'm recording today from my basement here with my son, and he'd like to give a welcome

in Abadibi language. Well, welcome him to be the Aban script, Pabod, Kabbas. There you have it.

And for this episode, we're going theological again. Don't worry, we're still in love with the Bible. We hope you enjoy this one. As a note, Tom Ord, whom Matt Bates interviews, was outside a coffee shop for this episode, hence the noise. Also, stick around to the end of the episode for a few listener book recommendations. You too can send your book recommendations to us at onscrippodcast.com

and write a note about a book that's had a significant impact on you and a little bit about why.

Oh, and by the way, those are Lego noises in the background.

Okay, now on to the episode.

Open Theism. I'll say it again. Open Theism. It's controversial. Some listeners are feeling the allure. Others are repulsed.

Doubtless, there are some out there who have little or no idea what open theism might be.

I remember the first time that I heard about open theism. This was back in my Regent College days, 2001, 2002,

when I was working on my master's degree. My friend Brent Whitmire, who, by the way, at one point

told me he had been listening to OnScript. Hi, Brent, if you're tuning in. Anyway, my friend Brent,

who knew far more about systematic theology than I did, I was and still am more of a Bible nerd,

was telling me about the theology of Clark Pinnock. I had no idea who Pinnock was,

but I remember Brent wide-eyed saying to me repeatedly, Clark Pinnock is a wild canon. A wild

canon. Presently, my response to open theism is akin to Brent's at that time. It's wild.

I'm drawn in because I'm convinced that there is something valuable that I need to learn and appropriate, but at the same time, wary of some of its claims.

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