And the Hey everyone is Andrew Clavin with this week's interview with the one and

only Eric Mataxus. I have to tell you one of the most disheartening experiences I ever had in public life was having to get up and speak on stage after Eric the guy is smart, he's witty, he's deeply informed about his Christianity and a faithful Christian and he has good hair.

So he's basically a disgusting human being in every way.

I have nothing good to say about him.

But I will be grudgingly give him this.

He has an amazing talent as a writer,

maybe it's because he wrote some of the scripts

for Veggie Tales when he was starting out,

but he has a wonderful gift of making very difficult arguments,

religious arguments, historical arguments, easy to understand his biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer,

which deals with everything from the history of Lutheranism

to the battle for the church in Nazi Germany,

just gives you a pollucidly clear view of issues that sometimes get lost and obscured in academic language.

He runs a wonderful discussion group in New York City called Socrates in the city where some of the most important thinkers of our time have spoken

and also me for some reason that must have been a slow week and he was a passionate supporter

of Donald Trump which I'm really interested to talk to him

about. He has a new book called A Letter to the American Church, a passionate address to a

church in crisis and it kind of hearkens back to some of the struggles that the church in Germany

had during Bonhoeffer's time.

We were together recently in New York and we were talking about it, had a private conversation

about those things, so I thought I'd bring them on and talk about it a little online.

Eric, it is always great to see you.

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