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I'm Mackenzie, Dr. Finl Fife's assistant and we are so glad that you're here.

Welcome to the Sex for Saints podcast Dr Finlayison Fife. I am so excited to have you on the

podcast. If there are listeners that don't know who you are and have been living under

a rock the last few years, Could you introduce yourself to them?

Sir, I'm Jennifer Finlison Fife, and I live in the Chicago area

and I'm a licensed therapist and a coach and instructor and I work specifically or kind of mostly with

Latter-day Saint individuals and couples around relationship and sexuality issues.

So I do a lot of teaching on that and, you know, one-on-one instruction as well.

Awesome.

And you'll find that many of the concepts that I teach here on the podcast are ones that I've learned

either from Dr. Finlayson-Fife or through her from Dr. Shnar's, you've introduced me to a lot of concepts that I use a lot with my clients and here on the podcast.

So I'm sure that they'll be familiar with some of your work.

Just if they haven't already listened to you then

really because I love your stuff. Okay so I wanted to bring on the podcast to talk

about the concept of equality in marriage and specifically in the sexual relationship.

I've heard you talk on the one up, one down dynamic.

Could you explain what that is?

Sure.

So you want the long lesson or the short one. I'll see if I can get somewhere in the middle. So human beings and this is a lot of Murray Bowen's work, David Schnarsh's work, but also Adler's work, there's a lot of different theorists who've talked about this idea that when we are trying to manage our anxiety, the anxiety that's inherent to being alive,

we tend to do it in relationship to other people and in fact use our way of relating to handle anxiety about ourselves.

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