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The Daily Beast Podcast

Epstein's Warning About Trump is Coming True: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to unpack the widening sense inside Trumpworld that the operation is slipping into pure incompetence. From Pete Hegseth’s troubling battlefield lore to Keystone Kash Patel’s chaos, Wolff charts a mood shift that even Murdoch-world can’t quite hide. Wolff outlines how Jeffrey Epstein once warned that Trump would misuse his pardon power, as evinced by Trump’s pardon of Honduran ex-president and cocaine trafficker Juan Orlando Hernández. Joanna presses the central question of the hour: Is this the moment when Trump’s own allies decide the circus has finally become a liability?

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0:00.0

It's a funny thing that Jeffrey Epstein had a riff about this.

0:03.2

He would talk about if Donald became president and the pardon power.

0:08.3

Because Trump talked about this, his kind of wide eye incredulity, I can pardon anyone.

0:14.2

No one can do anything about it.

0:16.6

Epstein had focused on this and said he loves showing the power that he has.

0:21.9

And he said he would do it in a childlike way.

0:28.5

Michael.

0:30.0

Joanna.

0:30.8

Different color.

0:32.4

Well.

0:33.1

I mean tobacco.

0:34.1

You've got tobacco pants on.

0:35.2

I've got a tobacco jacket.

0:36.4

Yeah.

0:36.9

No, it's green maybe for Christmas. I like it. I hadn't thought it about that. Okay. And I would take it off if I had thought about that. But anyway, it's here. Okay, well, I like it. And I'm wearing a curt-file t-shirt that a reader or a viewer sent us sent me actually not you they sent it to me really

0:57.0

you get t-shirts in the mail well i'm very pleased thank you maria for sending me the curt vile t-shirt

1:02.5

which i thought goes rather well with my tobacco jacket okay lots of comments this week saying people

1:08.2

don't believe you have never had a mcdonalds you know i don't what I can say. I don't exactly know how to prove that, but I have a further point about myself that would support this and is perhaps even more shocking. I can't wait to hear this. Okay, go forth. What is it? I don't know how to drive a car. I don't have a driver's license.

1:28.2

I know. It's really, I find crazy that you live in the Hamptons and you don't have a car.

1:34.0

I was never meant to live in the Hamptons. So I have lived virtually my entire adult life, certainly in Manhattan, where it never having a car, never even crossed my mind.

1:46.6

Then, of late, since I live in the Hamptons, it's a, it's a little bit of a...

1:55.0

Why don't you just learn to drive?

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