Why Andrew's Epstein Shame Will Never End: Author

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🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Lownie joins Joanna Coles with a bracing account of a royal family in complete public meltdown. Lownie, an author and British historian, lays out why Prince Andrew’s downfall is no longer a contained scandal but a widening corruption crisis—one that now stretches from sex-trafficking allegations to financial misconduct, secret meetings with Bahrain, and the Queen and Prince Philip’s decades-long blind spot for their “favorite” son. As King Charles battles cancer and Prince William quietly takes the reins, Joanna presses Lownie on whether Andrew will flee Britain, what Sarah Ferguson might reveal, and whether this is the most perilous moment for the monarchy since the abdication.

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0:00.0	It seems so unlike the queen we think of, who was always talking about duty first.
0:07.7	It is shocking. It's one of the most shocking things I found in the book.
0:10.1	The Palace tried to suppress all stories about Andrew and Geoffrey.
0:13.4	Time and time again, she would give him Andrew a new appointment when he was in the news on Epstein.
0:19.0	She just had a complete blind spot.
0:22.2	I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Daily Beast podcast. And today we have in the studio a guest
0:28.2	we have had only online up until now, but whose book really squeezed Prince Andrew into the
0:36.0	unpalatable place of having to give up his title Prince.
0:40.2	Yes, I'm talking about the British historian Andrew Loney, whose book entitled The Rise and the Fall of the House of York really precipitated the calamitous fall of Prince Andrew, not only from public life, but getting him eased out of
0:59.1	the Royal Lodge, which is where he's been living for the past few years. And Andrew's prediction
1:04.9	for what's going to happen to him, Andrew Loney's prediction of what's going to happen to Andrew
1:09.5	Mountbatten, Windsor, is it's
1:12.2	pretty sticky, actually.
1:14.1	I was a little surprised by it.
1:15.9	So many revelations to come.
1:20.1	So exciting to have British author and historian Andrew Loney in the studio.
1:30.9	I'm amazed you're even allowed into America.
1:37.1	Well, I did fly Air Lingus, so I thought if I'm going to go through preclearance, I'll be sent back from Dublin rather than from here.
1:40.0	Okay, very smart. Also a cheaper flight, I think.
1:41.0	It is, yes. So, Andrew, we have talked about your book entitled The Rise and Fall of the House of York
1:49.2	repeatedly on this podcast.
1:51.6	And I think it's fair to say that partly as a result of your book and Nobody's Girl,
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