You have to understand that Trump doesn't care about anything but himself.

Trump loves humiliating. I think he likes to dance. Get Mike Johnson and Lindsey Graham and then just

slap him around. I think he enjoys it. And maybe they enjoy it too far on. I'm Joanna Coles. This is

The Daily Bees podcast. And today we are back with James Carville. There is almost

nobody who has a better turn of phrase and he comes up with two fantastic ones in this interview.

He wrote last week an excellent column for the New York Times and I'm going to just read three

lines from it. The era of performative woke politics from 2020 to 2024 has left a

lasting stain on our brand, particularly with rural voters and male voters. And then he says,

we can no longer be the party with a whiff of moral absolutism. We can correct this only by looking

toward the future, always in every situation possible and pivoting to a form of economic

rage as our response. This offers Democrats the greatest gift you can have in American

politics a second chance. So let's find out exactly what he meant by that.

James Carvel, let's get into it.

James, you are predicting a whiff of the French revolution in America in an excellent column

that you wrote in the New York Times in the last couple of days.

What do you mean? What do you mean? How bad is it?

Well, what's happened is we have cheating just inequalities or discrepancies or whatever you want

to call it. And about 45% of the country can't pay any bills. Young people see no future that they can't imagine

themselves ever buying a house. They can't imagine themselves that will afford an education.

Meanwhile, sabers and old people have just run off the whole stack. And look at what we just did.

We just added another $4 trillion in debt. We just gave more tax funds to more rich people. We cut substantive

things that amounted to people all over a country like rural hospitals, small town

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