Greetings to your listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg for another exciting edition of the

Remnant Podcast. Sorry for the long hiatus since I've been here and thanks to Jack Butler, who just

got back from the Boston Marathon for pitching in with Barry Strouse from Cornell. The reviews have been

great. This week we have a very exciting guest and we have him in the studio unlike last time where we

had some technological issues. We have Tyler Cowan, who has a new book out called Big Business, a

love letter to an American anti-hero. Welcome Tyler. Thank you. Hello. So how long has it been since

your last book? Just roughly? Well, it's complicated. I had a book come out last year, but I didn't

write it last year. I had written much of it 20 years earlier and worked on it for a long time.

The last book I wrote came out two and a half years ago. Okay, it feels like you're much

your production schedule is much tighter than that because you've managed to get ideas into the blood

stream on a fairly regular basis and we just had you on a podcast for the book fairly recently and I

was just wondering how you managed to do this. I'm going to ask you my favorite question to ask

people who wrote books. What's your book about? My book suggests that right now we are villainizing

Big Business. That is a significant mistake. Big Business has many underheralded virtues and what I

do is just go through the evidence, the different critiques leveled at Big Business and show

Big Business in America is actually doing a pretty good job. It's not as monopolistic as we think.

Big Tech is not ruining our lives for the most parts CEOs are not overpaid and so on.

Okay, we will get to those various and sundry subarguments in just a second. The first thing though

is, hasn't it ever been thus? You can go back to Matthew Josephson's, the Robert Barons. We've

had this weird at least for the last hundred or so, more 120 years, this obsession with demonizing

Big Business or Robert Barons or the rich. Is this one of these examples of nothing new under

the sun in a sense? I think it comes and goes in waves. So there's much more anti-Big Business

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