Episode 897: Greg Prince Book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church”, Episode Three

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 855 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

My friend Greg Prince (writer, scientist, businessman, philanthropist—see bio at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Prince) joins us to talk about his book “Gay Rights and the Mormon Church: Intended Actions, Unintended Consequences” released in 2019. In this episode, Greg talks about the future—and what might be possible for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints. Greg talks about the process for other significant changes in our church and also shares thoughts on doctrine vs policy vs teachings. Thank you Greg for being on the podcast and all your efforts to bring more understanding and support for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and their families. Links: Greg’s Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P7Q8QZB

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:12.7	I have a returning guest on the podcast.
0:15.4	He's done two prior episodes, and he's returning for his third episode, Greg Prince.
0:22.8	Welcome to the podcast, Greg.
0:24.8	Thank you.
0:25.8	And happy Memorial Day.
0:27.6	It is Memorial Day.
0:28.8	We're recording this episode on Memorial Day.
0:32.8	Just as background, if you haven't listened to episode one or episode two, Greg has written a book.
0:39.0	It came out in 2019 called Gay Rights and the Mormon Church.
0:44.2	In intended actions and unintended consequences.
0:50.4	And in episode 884, our first episode, we went through,
0:57.9	Greg went through how the church went from the behavioral model to mostly the biological model and accepting that gay, lesbian people come this way,
1:04.6	which was far different than 1969 when the church first started talking about it.
1:10.1	Then in episode two, which was recorded, episode 892, episode two,
1:17.1	Greg took us through the church's journey, fighting same-sex marriage becoming legal,
1:24.5	and where that started in Hawaii and where that now ended with the church signing or being
1:31.0	supportive of the respect for marriage act that was passed in 2013 and sending a general authority
1:37.0	70 to the White House. And just that was 32 years of history there that ended with the church
1:43.9	ultimately, at least from a legal
1:46.8	standpoint, not from a change of doctrine standpoint, supporting the right for gay people to be
1:52.3	married in the United States.
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