Episode 885: Emily Groves, Age 18, Lesbian, Blind, Super Brave, Episode Two

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 855 Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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**Note: In this episode, Emily talks about being blind. In her prior episode (877), Emily talked about being a Lesbian** My friend Emily Groves (student at Boise State University, doubling in bio and computer science, active LDS) joins us to share her story. This is a physical disability—not a intellection one About her disability Two approaches to disability (medical and social) The treatment of disabled people (Pity, Honor, Incompetence) The temple Disability isolation Disability vs sexual orientation Cure culture Tips of interacting with disabled people Thank you Emily—I learned so much from you! I encourage everyone to listen and share this podcast to better support our disabled friends and family members. Honored to have you on the podcast, Emily. You are a remarkable person! Links: Emily’s e-mail: emilygroves00@gmail.com

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome, listeners, to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:08.9	My guest on today's podcast is Returning Guest, Emily Groves.
0:13.6	Welcome to the podcast, Emily.
0:15.9	Thank you so much for having that.
0:18.3	Emily was on episode 877, where she's 18 years old and she shared her
0:25.3	story being a lesbian, Latter-day Saint. And at the end of that episode, she talked about coming
0:31.3	back on the podcast and talk her journey of being born blind. And Emily is still blind.
0:38.3	And we haven't had, I'm not sure we've had anybody talk on this platform about being
0:44.1	blind.
0:45.3	And so she's really super prepared like she was in our first podcast.
0:49.9	And I'm going to learn a lot.
0:52.4	Our hope is this helps others with disabilities
0:55.5	and helps all of us better love and support people with disabilities.
0:59.8	And I probably have a lot of blind spots.
1:02.1	That's maybe not the right word.
1:03.5	There's a blind spot right there that I just said that, listeners.
1:06.5	But I probably don't always know what to say to somebody that's blind, and I probably err on the
1:13.0	not side of not saying anything.
1:15.8	And I think that can sometimes be not helpful versus at times engaging and asking the right
1:21.0	questions.
1:22.5	So I just am so grateful for Emily to be on the podcast and share the story. Emily's going to reintroduce herself. She has her bio. I'm going to let her read it this time. And then she'll go into the podcast. How's that for Emily? Is that okay for an introduction? Yeah, it's a good introduction. Okay. You're up. All right. So I am Emily, as he said, I'm a Boise State University student.
1:47.5	I am 18.
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