Welcome to the Nothing is Wasted Podcast, conversations designed to help you as you live, learn and lead through pain.

And now the host of the Nothing Is Wasted podcast, Davy Blackburn.

Hello, welcome to the Nothing Is Wasted Podcast. My name is Davy and joining me our

co-host Mel, Mel, today's interview is, it's a tough one and it is an incredible one all at the same time

Yeah, it really is I'm not much of a crier, I bawled through this episode so you might want to just go ahead and grab those

Kleenexes and bring them nearby.

Yeah, when we had this

with Tammy, she and her husband came over and it was probably almost too fresh to have the conversation with her.

I asked her if she would be okay with having it this early

after their tragedy and she said yes and I thought it was a really

good thing for her to share from kind of the raw aspects of her grief because I think sometimes

when we're so far removed from it we lose some of those like just the raw emotions that

we're feeling and so she really highlights that really well in this interview

but then later she sent me this email I mean several months, sent me this email that we're going to read

at the end of the interview where she kind of highlights

a few of the things that she was learning

in this process between when we interviewed her and up to this this point in the timeline

because I asked her a question I said you know what is this what is this taught you

what would you say to somebody who is experiencing this right now and she was a little bit

lost for words which is okay? That's okay to be at a loss for words because you know

when you're in the middle of your grief you're just trying to figure out how to navigate it yourself.

You don't necessarily have words for somebody else.

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