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🗓️ 21 April 2024
⏱️ 71 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler. |
0:09.9 | My guest on today's podcast, joining me via Zoom from Arizona, I think Gilbert, Arizona, is my new friend, Arthur Wiseman. |
0:18.9 | Welcome to the podcast, Arthur. |
0:21.3 | Hi. |
0:23.2 | We've had a couple recently returned gay missionaries on the podcast. |
0:29.9 | We had other Jacob Troxel on episode 740, Elder James Smart, episode 747, he got named after a plane, 747. |
0:42.0 | And now we have Elder Arthur Wiseman who returned from a mission in Arizona in December of |
0:47.8 | 2023. So he's been home a few months, and he has sent me his outline, and it's a really remarkable story. He grew up in |
0:57.8 | Arizona, sorry, in California, in Oregon. His mother has since passed away. His father is alive. |
1:03.8 | I think he's the youngest of five. He's looking for a career potentially in social work. |
1:10.0 | I don't want to tell a story. |
1:11.9 | I just want to give you a little bit of the 30,000 foot level. |
1:14.5 | When he was called on his mission, he knew he was gay, but he wasn't ever going to tell |
1:18.9 | anybody that. |
1:20.5 | But then every story is different listeners. |
1:22.9 | As you know, he felt impressed during his mission to come out at times. |
1:27.4 | And that was a really good |
1:28.9 | experience at times and a really painful experience at times. And then he also just had the |
1:34.3 | challenges that all missionaries have that aren't related to sexual orientation, just the journey |
1:39.3 | of being an LDS missionary. But I think his story will help you if you're considering serving a mission, |
1:46.5 | if you're an ally or parent wondering how this would work about your queer kids serving a |
1:52.0 | mission. There's more, obviously, that are open about this, either before their mission or |
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