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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 752: Kyle Jones, M.D., Author

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

** This podcast mentions suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text chat 988** Guest host Tonya Miller interviews Kyle Jones, M.D., who talks about his most recent book, “When All Hope Seems Lost: A Gospel Perspective on Mental Illness in Youth,” which will be released later this month. Kyle is a Family Practice physician who works primarily with neurodivergent individuals and their families. He is active in the Church, and he and his wife are the parents of four children. Kyle shares his story of first being diagnosed with mental illness as a student, with significant worsening during his medical residency. This is the topic of his first book: “Fallible: A Memoir of a Young Physician’s Struggle with Mental Illness.” He talks about noticing mood disorder symptoms when he was a teenager, but not realizing that he was dealing with mental illness at the time. The cumulative effects of the stress he experienced as a medical student and resident led him to eventually learn that he was living with anxiety and depression, for which he still takes medication and participates in therapy. Kyle describes ways that he started to share his story with other physicians and learned that he was not as alone as he feared. From there, he has continued to develop opportunities for providing outreach and education about mental illness, especially for members of the Church. He began to realize that there are not many resources about mental illness for youth in the Church, along with ongoing myths and stigma about the relation of mental illness to the gospel, which led him to write this book. Kyle describes the complexities that youth in the Church face, and ways that specific gospel principles can help them heal, even when, in some cases, there is no “cure” for what they are dealing with. He shares stories of teens who have worked though challenges with mental illness that he interviewed for his book. He also interviewed mental health professionals who work with teens and talks about some of the insights they provide. Kyle refers to what he calls the “Broken Record” messages of the gospel that can bolster youth who fear they have done something “wrong” to “cause” their mental illness. They are: 1) Jesus loves you, no matter what, 2) Mental illness is not your fault, and 3) There are people here to help. I am very grateful for Kyle’s willingness to share his story and perspectives around ways that principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ can ground and empower youth if they are experiencing mental illness while simultaneously navigating the complexities of life. As a side note, I’m focusing only on sharing stories associated with the Queer-LDS experience now. However, if you would like to share your story about a different Church- or gospel-related topic on Listen, Learn and Love, please contact Tonya about the possibility of working with her as my guest-host (e-mail Tonya at [email protected]). Links for Kyle’s books and other resources are found below. www.kylebradfordjones.com Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram: @kbjones11 Previous books: www.amazon.com/stores/Kyle-Bradford-Jones/author/B082WKSNYY? When All Hope Seems Lost: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYCXFVB9

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love.

0:08.9

This episode is hosted by my guest host and friend Tanya Miller.

0:13.9

Tanya Miller is a licensed clinical social worker, active Lattery Saint, and married mother of four.

0:21.1

Tanya Miller was on episode 501, where she spoke about healing from church-generated trauma,

0:28.7

an episode according to SoundCloud with over 60,000 listens.

0:33.6

Tanya is also the author of a chapter addressing the same topic in my third book,

0:39.6

Listen, Learn, and Love, Building the Good Ship Zion.

0:42.8

I trust Tanya, because of her level of maturity and extensive clinical experience to be an excellent guest host.

0:52.6

As I mentioned in my solo episode, episode 731, my emotional gas

0:59.4

tank is low, and I've decided to cut back and generally host only LGBTQ-focused episodes.

1:06.8

I knew that meant there were other brave stories from amazing people,

1:13.1

the real heroes of this podcast,

1:17.1

that might not be shared and was sad about that.

1:22.8

However, Tanya and I reconnected shortly after I posted that episode and explored the possibility of having her guest hosts,

1:26.5

so these stories could still be shared and delivered

1:30.6

on this platform. And I'm really grateful to have Tanya as a guest host.

1:36.3

Hello, listeners. And thank you, Richard. I feel very humble about this undertaking.

1:41.6

And I am so grateful for your trust. I don't take that lightly,

1:45.9

especially the trust that every courageous guest offers when they participate in this process.

1:52.0

I am so hopeful that the good work accomplished already by Listen, Learn, and Love will continue to expand,

1:58.5

and that the gentle spirit that has always accompanied Richard's

2:02.2

podcasts can be maintained.

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