Episode 730: Jana Spangler, Stages of Faith

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

My friend Jana Spangler (Certified Integral Profession Coach at Symmetry Solutions, alumnus of The Living School, Latter-day Saint) joins us to talk about stages of faith using Brian McLaren’s 4-stage model of simplicity, complexity, perplexity, and harmony. This is a powerful model to understand the various roads Latter-day Saints are walking. Jana—a sought-after speaker, presenter, retreat leader and podcast guest on this subject—has many years of experience in this space from both her personal journey, professional work, and academic experience to give Latter-day Saints tools and vocabulary to understand a faith transition within themselves and provide better support to others. Jana is someone I consider an expert in this field for Latter-day Saints. Her work helped me in my own journey during my faith transition as I desired to stay a committed Latter-day Saint and needed more tools, principals, and perspective. Thank you, Jana, for your wonderful/needed work in our community to bring us together, reduce tension, and help us be more united. Links: Symmetry Solutions: symmetrypath.com/ Brian McLaren Book “Faith after Doubt”: brianmclaren.net/ Jana’s Faith Matter’s Podcast: faithmatters.org/faith-journey-101-a-conversation-with-jana-spangler/ Jana’s At She Said It Podcast: atlastshesaidit.org/episode-134-what-about-religious-trauma/ Church’s New Resources on Listening: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/helping-others-with-their-questions/03-listen-with-humility Other New Church Resource supporting those with question: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/life/church-and-gospel-questions

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:10.0	My guest today is a returning guest, my friend Janice Spangler.
0:14.7	Welcome to the podcast, Jana.
0:17.4	Thank you, Richard.
0:18.5	I'm so happy to be back.
0:20.9	Jana was on episode 144, and this will be in the 700s.
0:26.1	So a lot of stories have been shared since episode 144.
0:31.8	That was about four years ago in 2019.
0:35.0	Jana talked about the stages of faith, and it was one of the highest listened episodes
0:41.0	in that kind of time period, 21 to 22,000 listens, which was a huge spike compared to the
0:48.4	podcast during that, those few years.
0:51.9	She talks about the stages of faith, and I recognize that there's a lot of people out there going through a faith transition, some falling upwards.
1:01.5	I called mine a mini-faith crisis, and Jana was the first person as I walked this road as a Latter-day Saint that gave me context and tools as she introduced me to Fowler's
1:13.4	stages of faith.
1:15.3	And she has been in this space.
1:18.8	Let me introduce her with her bio.
1:22.0	Janice Spangler is a certified integral professional coach at Symmetry Solutions and member of the International
1:31.4	Coaching Federation.
1:33.4	She is an alumnus of the Living School.
1:37.0	That's really cool, by the way, where she studied contemplative spiritual traditions
1:43.6	and the work of transformation and the direction of
1:46.9	Richard Roar. And Richard Roar is somebody I deeply admire. You may, you'll probably talk about
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