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Hello and welcome back to the low-carb MD podcast today Trot and I have a

giant in medicine who's not a doc he's an engineer and these guys came and they rocked our world.

Imagine my problem, Trill.

I'm at a medical conference and I have this guest,

Dave Feldman, from cholesterol code and Iver Cummins, both saying how wrong we've been about cholesterol.

And I had to go back to my own practice and evaluate and start looking at my patients.

And my practice of medicine changed that day. So I'm deeply indebted to these guys who crossed over into medicine and are now teaching us about how medicine works. So Trot, welcome man.

Yeah, listen, I'm happy to be here and I have to agree with you.

You know, in medical school, it's ingrained in us, you know,

LDL is bad, LDL. L. L. is bad.

And you don't have to treat for an L. D.L.

which we really don't do much anymore.

And that's kind of come out of the guidelines.

But it wasn't until these engineers kind of showed up on the low-carb scene and

really made us start to question the mantra of what is cholesterol, what are its functions,

what does it do, how can we manipulate it.

And these engineers, they're just experts at manipulating inputs, outputs, and seeing,

testing the limits of the data

and kind of experimenting and seeing kind of what happens.

And everything, I really think, I can't tell you how many people I've talked to have said

Dave Feldman needs to get an award for the data he's done and you're laughing

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