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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 710: Rev. Dr. Fatimah Salleh

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

My friend Rev. Dr. Fatimah Salleh (PhD in Mass Communication, Master’s degree in Public Communication, Master of Divinity from Duke, Married Mother of Four, LDS Author, Grew Up LDS/RM) joins us to share insights about the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Fatimah (co-author of “The Book of Mormon for the Least of These” a three-volume series; and her new book “Love Memory: A Memoir & A Practice” edited by Marci McPhee) talks about her own story growing up to in a multi-ethnic/culture/religious family and her personal journey in the LDS Church and her “soft separation from the Church” leading to her current role as a Baptist Pastor. Fatimah, who is respectful of the Church, talks about God’s love for all God's children, seeing a social justice charge in our scriptures, and the need to bring those on the margins into full inclusion. Fatimah gives advice for younger people including “being the greatest explorer of your life” and how she, as a clergy member, has a responsibility to learn, grow, apologize, and “do no harm.” On a personal note, Dr Salleh gave a sermon (see show notes) in 2015 called “Theology From the Margins” that gave me the theological perspective and doctrinal foundation to become an ally for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints. It was transforming for me as she spoke about the Canaanite woman, not reading the scriptures with the lens of “who is in and who is out”, seeing and using privilege, and being an ally. Thank you, Rev. Dr. Fatimah Salleh, for being on the podcast and your life work to help people find the love of God, bring the human family together, heal each other, and find Jesus. You are a great human doing much good in our world. Links: The Book of Mormon For the Least of These/Volume 1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948218232 The Book of Mormon For the Least of These/Volume 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948218585 The Book of Mormon For the Least of These/Volume 3: Available Q4 2023 Love Memory: A Memoir & A Practice: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFDB372B 2015 Sunstone Speech: https://sunstone.org/2015-theology-from-the-margins-conference-keynote-speech-by-fatimah-salleh/

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:10.0

I've been looking forward to this podcast ever since it was scheduled about a month ago,

0:14.8

and I'm honored to have somebody I'd really admire and look up to Reverend Dr. Fatima Saleh. Welcome to the podcast.

0:25.7

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. I'll read a little bio about Reverend Dr. Saleh.

0:35.1

She was born in Brooklyn, New York, to Puerto Rican and Malaysian mother

0:40.8

and an African-American father. Dr. Salé received her Ph.D. in mass communications in the

0:47.0

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and also earned a master's degree from Syracuse

0:53.2

University in Public Communication and a master's degree from Syracuse University in Public Communication

0:55.2

and a master's degree in Divinity from Duke University.

1:00.2

She launched a certain work in 2018

1:02.9

in an effort to provide racial equality consultant's consultation

1:09.5

and training for organizations and churches. In 2021,

1:15.0

Dr. Saleh Ministries, Inc. Religious Nonprofit was established to focus on clergy, wellness,

1:23.4

and well-being. Both organizations, a certain work, and Salé Ministries were built upon

1:30.1

lasting commitment to equality, justice, and grace by being in a right relationship with

1:36.1

one another. She's author of many books. The books that our audience might be the most

1:42.1

familiar with is, I believe, is a trilogy.

1:45.7

I believe there's a three of them, and one's either just coming out.

1:49.2

The last one or has come out.

1:50.3

You'll probably talk about that.

1:52.1

It's the Book of Mormon for the least of these.

1:55.0

And I think Margaret Olson Hemming co-edded that with you.

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