Episode 696: Chris Rich, Active LDS, Find Peace and Hope After Family Left the Church

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

My friend Chris Rich (married mother of three, husband and all three children stepped away from the Church, grew up in SLC, lives in Western Massachusetts, professional life coach) joins us to share her story. Chris talks learning to process the emotions (worried, angry, disappointment, resentment, and grief) of having family members leave the church and learning how to get through those emotions to find peace. Chris talks about the constant thought of “this isn’t what I signed up for” but learning to get past that perspective into a more healthy and sustainable mindset. Chris talks about her efforts to get her husband back to church—but then deciding “my job is to love, Jesus job is to save”. She talks about moving beyond “the only way to be happy is if my husband comes back to church.” Chris also talks about “clean pain” and “dirty pain” and how dirty pain can result in getting stuck (like a hamster wheel) and how to move beyond that pain. Chris talks about loving and supporting her family now. Seeing the good in their lives and contributions to society. Chris talks about how “fear is a hard emotion to parent from” and her end goal now with her family is “connection”. This is one of the best podcasts we’ve done to find peace, hope, and love when family members leave the church. I was so moved listening to Chris’s insights—including gospel insights, scriptures, talks and the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Thank you, Chris, for being on the podcast. I hope your episode is shared far and wide. Your work is so needed in our community. Thank you for being on our podcast—you are awesome! Links: a) Chris Rich’s coaching site: https://www.chrisrichcoaching.com/ b) Chris’s podcast (The Mixed Faith Relationship Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mixed-faith-relationship-podcast/id1627333149 c) Elder Uchtdorf talk: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2011/11/general-relief-society-meeting/forget-me-not?lang=eng d) Richard Ostler Books: papaostler.com e) Index of Podcasts: listenlearnandlove.org/podcasts

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.8	My guest on today's podcast joining me from Long Metal, Massachusetts, is my friend Chris Rich.
0:16.1	Welcome to the podcast.
0:18.8	Thanks, Richard.
0:20.7	I'll give you a little introduction, listeners, so you kind of know who we're going to hear from.
0:25.8	Chris is a mother of three married 25 years. She's second counselor in her stake release
0:31.9	society presidency, and her husband and all three of her kids have left the church.
0:42.4	That's very different than she thought her life would be when they first got married.
0:49.8	And so Chris is willing to share her story and the things she's learned and sort of going from the worst case. This is like my worst nightmare that I ever thought would happen to finding peace and hope
0:54.9	in a beautiful family that's united and this isn't theoretical for Chris sort of like you
1:03.4	know but this is her story and if you were walking this road and maybe new to it or a little
1:09.5	further along our prayers this will help you.
1:12.3	Chris has been on this road for a while.
1:15.1	We'll link to her podcast she started.
1:17.3	We'll link to her website as a life coach so you can connect more with her work.
1:23.3	But I've read her outline.
1:25.1	Listeners, what I try to do is have my podcast guests send me an outline.
1:28.5	And I usually read it about an hour over the podcast because we do so many.
1:33.3	I kind of zero in on each podcast about a few hours before it's ready to start.
1:38.0	And it's just so deeply moved reading her outline and the things that she's learned and the things she's willing to share.
1:45.7	And I'm kind of excited to hear this also.
1:50.1	Is that okay for an introduction?
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