You get up on your little 21 inch screen and howl about America and democracy.

There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only

IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils'

accounts of the state?

Karl Mark?

They get out their linear programming charts.

Statistical decision theory has been and max solutions and compute the price cost probabilities of their transactions and investments

just like me. All I'm going to be is a jump over.

We are probably going to be close.

All I'm gonna be is a jump, Hello everybody it's your chappo for the week. It's me Will Menaker joined by Matt Chrisman and standing in for Felix who is currently blowing this month's

Patreon at the Craps Tables of Atlantic City is Brendan James. How you guys doing?

Surviving. I'm fine. So I'm pretty excited for this week's show. I'm kind of thrilled. I'm super hype that we get to bring you this. But this

week's show is an interview we did with the filmmaker Adam Curtis. It was a long conversation. It was fascinating and thrilling to me because I'm a big

fan of his work. But I figured maybe some of you aren't familiar with Adam Curtis.

So like before we play the interview, I don't know, how would you guys describe?

He's a British documentary filmmaker whose films are, think fascinating and I don't know I think they really fit in with

the sort of chape of vision of the world.

Well loyal listeners will know that we did a gentle parody, a loving parody of Adam Curtis,

the Adam Curtis style narration a couple episodes ago for the show.

Yes, imitation is the highest form of flattery.

We spent most of the interview talking about his most recent movie, which is called hyper-normalization and it's like it's just a

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