Man, I really miss. We used to go on like little daily walks around the block with each other,

or we used to leave each other cute little notes in our bedside table,

or we used to always kiss hello and goodbye.

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Hey Roomy. Hi, what's up? You're late on the rent this month. Oh,

shit. What are you gonna do to pay it off? Oh my god, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have it soon, but

I have one idea for how I can make it up to you. Yeah, this is, but this is not what this episode is

about. Unfortunately, it kind of sounds like a little fantasy. The roleplay of the soap.

Just kidding. Please don't bring back the milkman, just the roommates.

You caught on to that a lot faster than I thought you were going to.

Trying to catch you off guard a little bit, but it just went straight into the role.

All you want to do is make me pay.

So today we are talking all about the roommates phase in a relationship. So we actually got

the idea for this episode because we found this TikTok that said something like, you know,

why does no one ever talk about the roommates phase of a relationship? And there were just

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