Episode 579 - On The Potential of Art & The Limits of Tucker Carlson (w/ Saul Williams)
Bad Faith
Bad Faith
4.5 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 124 minutes
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Summary
Poet, musician, actor, & writer Saul Williams joins Bad Faith podcast for the first time to talk about how art can help feed this revolutionary moment and expand our understanding of our potential as a global community. But also, Briahna is still hyper-fixated on the prominent role the Israel-critical right is playing in the anti-war space, and what the implications are for building a left, anti war, internationalist movement that can't be "America first" insofar as our way of life is dependent on the immiseration of the global south. We work through all of this in a deeply nuanced, compassionate, and musical 2 hour chat.
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Produced by Armand Aviram.
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).
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| 0:22.6 | I'm So a lot of people obviously get labeled multi-hyphenates. |
| 0:48.1 | You're one of the most multi-hyphenates that I've ever heard. |
| 0:51.3 | I listened to you on another podcast in the introduction was like five thrilling minutes long. |
| 0:58.6 | So I want to ask you how you prefer to be introduced. |
| 1:02.7 | I'm an artist. |
| 1:04.1 | My first love is theater. |
| 1:06.2 | I come from acting and growing up as an actor simultaneously. |
| 1:11.0 | I mean, so now I'm about to start adding hyphens, right? |
| 1:13.9 | So simultaneously, I was rapping, all that, the poetry and the theater and all of that. |
| 1:19.5 | Well, it all led to poetry. |
| 1:21.3 | But I really just operate as an artist all around, and different media fulfills different parts of the creative process. |
| 1:32.1 | So, like, I make music because I need to make music to think straight. |
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