It's Wednesday the 11th of November 2020. I'm Martin yelling. He's Tom Williams.

This is episode 566 of Marathon Talk. I'm going to do. So, On this week's show I speak to anthropologist and author Michael Crawley about

his latest book out of thin air running wisdom and magic from above the clouds in

Ethiopia there's news from Japan as the Olympic countdown continues plus you

the host rate your run flashing it around the world. Tom Williams here we are.

How you doing?

I'm all right.

I'm okay. I'm having a little teeny tiny running blip, only a one yeah but you are let's get into the detail

shall because you normally say that I'm having a bit of a running blip I did a 10 mile

progression run on Sunday and a six minute minutes and a six minute mileing and I've just felt relatively different.

I am feeding it.

Should I tell you why it is?

Because I've gone into my winter conditioning mode, right?

And, and carry on your own look at on Strava, keep talking.

Well, I'm going to fact check this statement.

Carry on fake news.

And Martin's being fact checked on marathon talk.

Yeah, I have still been running.

No doubt you will see the running on my Strava profile is probably relatively consistent if losing a little bit at the top end.

I've stopped swimming because the sea is too cold for my poor little ice cream head.

Oh, but I'm missing it.

I'm really missing using my upper body in any way.

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