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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 562: Jody England Hansen, Navigating Dissonance and Paradox

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.7855 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

My friend Jody England Hansen (married mother of three, active Latter-day Saint) shares her story growing up in family that valued critical thinking, activism, looking out for the most marginalized and moving forward with the complexities/beauties of being a Latter-day Saints. Jody also shares insights about her father, Eugene England, who was one of the most influential Latter-day Saints in our lifetime. Two biographies about Eugene England were published in 2021: Eugene England: A Mormon Liberal by Kristine Haglund: https://www.amazon.com/Eugene-England-Liberal-Introductions-Thought/dp/0252086007 Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism by Terryl Givens: https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/B09NMQ43M3/ You can read more about Eugene England and his work at https://www.eugeneengland.org/ If you are looking for tools to move forward as a Latter-day Saint with the dissonance/paradox that can be part of your journey, please listen to Jody’s insights. She has a long view of being on this road and has remarkable insights to help you. Thank you, Jody, for being on the podcast. Your soft heart, gospel insights, and love for all of our Heavenly Parents’ children is deeply moving to me. Thank you for your beautiful life ministry.

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.5

My guest in my home on this beautiful summer day is my friend Jody, England Hansen.

0:15.5

Welcome to the podcast, Jody.

0:17.1

Thank you, Richard. I'm thrilled to be here.

0:20.1

About six years ago, when I stepped in the space of trying to better support LGBTQ Latter-D-D-Saints,

0:26.6

there were some people already in this space.

0:28.6

There were active LDS and saying kind things about gay people.

0:32.7

And Jody was one of those.

0:34.5

And I realized Jody's mentoring to me in this space and in my life has been

0:41.3

very helpful. There's others, but I recognize I could be a committed to Latter-day Saint and support

0:45.4

LGBTQ people. And so I'd like to publicly thank Jody for her good influence in my life

0:52.1

and the wonderful woman she is.

0:58.7

And this podcast, having her on the podcast is probably five years overdue.

1:04.1

Should have had her on the podcast multiple times, but I just kept getting this impression to reach out to Jody.

1:13.8

To have her tell part of her story, but also to talk about her father, Eugene England, who is somebody six years ago,

1:14.7

I didn't know.

1:21.4

And somebody that passed away in 2021, that's 20, 2001. 2001.

1:23.4

So that's 21 years ago.

1:25.5

And that's Jody's father.

1:27.2

A couple biographies have been written about him that have come out last year.

1:32.4

We're going to talk about those.

1:34.6

But he is just an incredible member of our faith community.

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