Episode 543: Jeff Goodell

Longform

Education, Arts, Books, News

4.7 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Jeff Goodell is a climate change writer for Rolling Stone and the author of seven books. His new book is The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet. “I would not have said this even five years ago, but I have really come to see this now as a crime story. This is a kind of looting of the atmosphere of the earth, siphoning off resources and grossly profiting off of that at the expense of many other people—billions of people—on this planet. And I understand that’s a big thing to say, but I think it’s just pretty obviously true. … I don’t mean that personally that each one of them personally is a criminal. We are all complicit in this.” Show notes: @jeffgoodell jeffgoodellwriter.com Goodell on Longform Goodell’s Rolling Stone archive 11:00 “Who’s a Hero Now?” (New York Times Magazine • July 2003) 15:00 The Water Will Come (Back Bay Books • 2018) 15:00 Big Coal (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt • 2006) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome to the Longform Podcast. I am Max Lenskim here with my co-hosts,
0:13.4	Aaron Lammer, Evan Radliff, gentlemen. Hello. Hey Max. Hey. Who is on this podcast this week?
0:20.2	This podcast. What is this podcast? This week on the show is Jeff Gidell. He has been covering
0:28.4	climate change for Rolling Stone for almost 20 years. He's got a new book out. It's called The Heat
0:34.0	Will Kill You First Life and Death on a scorched planet. I listened to approximately 30 seconds of
0:42.5	this interview because you asked me to clean up some background noise, and it was the most
0:47.8	scintillating random 30. He was like, and then I almost died, but that didn't stop me from going
0:53.8	back to motorcycle racing. That was the only thing I heard. Very good teaser for the episode.
0:59.2	I was trying to find a way to tease the fact that we talked both about climate change and how you
1:05.3	report on it and how you tell stories about it and how you don't just fall into an endless pit of
1:11.2	despair, but also about near death experiences, motorcycle racing, and Steve Jobs. He tells it all.
1:18.9	There you have it, folks. Listen to that podcast that you're already listening to right now,
1:23.4	because this is the introduction to it. We are brought to you in partnership with Vox Media.
1:29.6	They help us make the show. Thanks to everyone over at Vox. And now here's Max with Jeff Gidell.
1:41.3	Hey Jeff. Welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me, man. Thanks for doing this. I can't believe
1:46.4	you haven't been on before, but I feel like our timing is right. We shall see.
1:51.6	All right. Great. All right. I'm committed. If you're not committed yet, I understand, but I'm
1:55.3	committed. I think this is our time. And before we talk about why this is our time, I would like
2:02.7	to quickly go back in time. I have been reading your reporting on the climate for over a decade
2:12.1	in Rolling Stone. I remember many of your pieces as watershed eye opening, terrifying moments for me.
2:23.8	And I wonder what the climate moment was for you. And when this became the topic that you were
2:32.8	going to so thoroughly dedicate your professional life to. That's an interesting question. You know,
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