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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 533: Isabelle Wheeler, Nonbinary Latter-day Saint

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2022

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

My friend Isabelle Wheeler (age 23, UVU student, RM) bravely shares their journey as a nonbinary Latter-day Saint. Isabelle talks about their early life, college, serving a mission (Fort Lauderdale, FL), and their experiences following their mission. If you are nonbinary or transgender, Isabelle’s insights and experience will help you. If you are a parent or local leader trying to better support nonbinary or transgender Latter-day Saints, Isabelle’s story will help you. Thank you, Isabelle for your courage to be on the podcast. I was deeply moved hearing your experiences and gospel insights. You are remarkable and our Church is better with you as a member. Links mentioned in the podcast: Deseret News Article: https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2022/6/7/23157031/1-in-20-young-adults-identify-as-transgender-or-nonbinary-pew-survey-finds-pew-research-lgbtq LGBTQ Workshop Panel with Trans and Nonbinary Students: June 15th, Utah Valley University Institute, 7 pm, 785 College Dr, Orem, UT 84058 Chapter 8 from Richard Ostler’s Book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uz9qjy1dq5fox7c/Chapter%208%2C%20Transgender%20Latter-day%20Saints.pdf?dl=0 Great podcast from Questions for the Closet on Gender Dysphoria: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-is-gender-dysphoria/id1504990147?i=1000565502494 ** Please Check Out My LGBTQ Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773 ** Want to develop church-supported LGBTQ activities in your local area? Please join our FB group below ** https://www.facebook.com/groups/1433556613672143

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:08.4

My guest on today's podcast is my friend Isabel Wheeler.

0:12.7

Welcome to the podcast, Isabel.

0:14.7

Thank you so much.

0:15.7

I'm happy to be here.

0:16.7

Isabel is Faithful Latter-day Saint, a return missionary who identifies as non-binary.

0:23.6

And we're trying to do as many podcasts as we can with transgender non-binary Latter-day Saints

0:29.6

so we can understand their stories.

0:32.6

Isabel's non-binary takes they, them, gender neutral pronouns.

0:39.2

So I will try to do that as much as possible in this podcast.

0:43.3

I hope to be perfect, but I may not and slip into she, her.

0:47.8

No worries.

0:48.8

And you're very gracious.

0:50.9

I met Isabel when I spoke at the UVU Institute,

0:57.0

Allies and LGBT Workshop that's being held in Orm, Utah,

1:03.0

as part of the UVU Institute and met many of our queer Latter-day Saints there

1:08.0

and got the chance to meet Isabelle. And I'm so honored to have

1:12.1

their story on the podcast. And when we know better, we do better. Now, some more background.

1:19.1

In the Desert News, we're recording this on June 7th. There's an article that we'll link to in the

1:25.9

show notes at the Desert News, Church

1:27.8

on Desert News, that says 1 in 20 young adults, that's 19 through 29, and Isabel's in the middle

1:34.0

of that range range, identify as transgender non-binary.

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