Episode 513: Guns Again & Learning to Read the Bible with Jo Saxton and BibleProject
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2022
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
Responses to the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas, have continued, and there’s renewed hope for policy changes. This week, Jo Saxton joins Phil and Skye as a guest co-host to discuss a series of articles from African-American and global Christian leaders about the need to rethink both America’s gun policies and the American church’s gun culture.
Then, BibleProject co-founders, Jon Collins and Tim Mackie, talk with Skye about how their work has shifted from just teaching what’s in the Bible to teaching people how to read the Bible. Their new app and podcast series is designed to help us see the Bible as brilliant literature, and not just a depository of quick answers to life’s problems. Also this week, should we be concerned that more people are having wedding ceremonies to marry themselves?
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
4:10 - Sologamy??
13:49 - Guns in the home
20:39 - Guns and cars
26:00 - Global perspective on America’s gun culture
36:12 - Gun violence and the theology of evil
44:52 - Guns and church
54:44 - Holy Post Announcements
Interview with Jon Collins and Tim Mackie
BibleProject: bibleproject.com
BibleProject App: https://bibleproject.com/app/
BibleProject Podcast: https://bibleproject.com/podcasts/the-bible-project-podcast/
57:09 - Jon Collins and Tim Mackie interview intro
1:00:26 - BibleProject shift toward how to read the Bible
1:06:39 - Bible literacy in America
1:19:38 - Literary beauty in the Bible
Articles mentioned in news segment:
“Sologamy: India woman’s plan to ‘marry herself’ sparks debate” - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61671032
“Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home”https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/
“What would it mean to treat guns the way we treat cars?” (Vox) - https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23151852/gun-violence-cars-crashes-firearms-deaths-youth
“This Love of Guns: It’s Way Beyond Our Understanding” by Matthew Soerens (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/better-samaritan/2022/june/this-love-of-guns-its-way-beyond-our-understanding.html
“What Supporters of Gun Rights Mean When They Talk About ‘Evil’” by Esau McCalley (NYT Opinion) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/10/opinion/mass-shooting-evil.html
“White Churches, It’s Time to Go Pro-Life on Guns” by Charlie Dates (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/june-web-only/uvalde-school-shooting-chicago-go-pro-life-gun-violence.html
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to The Holy Post. On today's show, responses to the mass shootings in Buffalo and Uvalde have continued, and there's renewed hope for policy changes. |
| 0:09.0 | And a series of new articles from African American and global Christian leaders are causing us to rethink both America's gun policies and the American Church's gun culture. |
| 0:19.0 | Both Christian and Caitlin are overseas, so Phil and I are joined today by our friend Joe Saxton to discuss these articles and talk more about the church's response to the gun violence in our culture. |
| 0:30.0 | Joe has years of experience as a church leader and as an author, speaker, and podcast host. |
| 0:36.0 | We recommend checking out her show called Lead Stories, Tales of Leadership and Life. |
| 0:41.0 | Then I'm joined by John Collins and Tim Mackey, the co-founders of the Bible project, to talk about how their ministry has shifted from just teaching people what's in the Bible to actually teaching people how they should read the Bible. |
| 0:54.0 | Their new app and podcast series is designed to help us see the Bible as way more than just the depository of quick answers to life's problems, but rather as deep spiritual literature. |
| 1:04.0 | All of that, plus more people are having wedding ceremonies to marry themselves. |
| 1:09.0 | Here is episode 513. |
| 1:12.0 | Hey there, everybody. This is Phil Vissier. Welcome back to the Holypost podcast. I am here today. |
| 1:17.0 | We got Skyjitani. Hi, Sky. |
| 1:19.0 | Hi, Phil. |
| 1:20.0 | How you doing? |
| 1:21.0 | I'm good. |
| 1:22.0 | Good. |
| 1:23.0 | Glad you could come back again for another week. |
| 1:27.0 | How many weeks have you missed in the last 10 years? |
| 1:30.0 | I think I can think of maybe one or two where we recorded, but you weren't present. |
| 1:34.0 | Yeah, it hasn't been many. |
| 1:36.0 | And the funny thing is, I think I travel more than you. |
| 1:39.0 | I see. |
| 1:40.0 | Oh, so you're looking for extra credit since you travel more and you've missed just a tiny bit more. |
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