Episode 512: Christian Self-Defense & Church-Based Deconstruction with Mike Erre & Lina AbuJamra

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

4.6 • 4.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2022

⏱️ 85 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Christians who oppose more restrictive gun control policies say we have a God-given constitutional right to self-defense. But is there any evidence to back this claim? With Christian and Kaitlyn both in Europe, Phil and Skye invite Mike Erre from the Voxology podcast to fill the empty co-host chair. Mike looks at the biblical texts cited by gun advocates and says that even if self-defense can be justified, for the Christian it is not a “right.”

Then, Skye talks to Lina AbuJamra about her book, “Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to Faith in an Age of Deconstruction.” Like so many, AbuJamra entered a season of significant doubt not because of anti-Christian messages from the culture, but after experiencing a toxic leadership culture at her church. She shares what restored her faith, the danger of false expectations, and why honesty about our disillusionment is the first step. Also this week—California declares that bees are fish, and scientists accidentally create murder hamsters. What could possibly go wrong?

Holy Post 10th Anniversary Merch: https://www.holypost.com/shop

News Segment:

0:00 - Intro

4:18 - Bees are fish

https://gizmodo.com/bees-fish-california-conservation-endangered-specie-1849009597

9:11 - Murder hamsters

https://boingboing.net/2022/05/29/scientists-accidentally-made-a-vicious-mutant-attack-hamster.html

14:55 - Re: French Friday episode on gun control

French Friday: Debating Gun Control - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-debating-gun-control

19:39 - Constitutional right to self-defense?

The Federalist Papers: No 46 - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed46.asp

27:05 - Biblical right to self-defense?

46:53 - Thoughts and prayers

Sponsor

51:28 - Faithful Counseling

faithfulcounseling.com/holypost

Interview with Lina AbuJamra:

“Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to God in an Age of Deconstruction” - https://amzn.to/3xqCiEa

Living with Power - https://www.livingwithpower.org

52:38 - Lina AbuJamra intro

54:44 - Journey that led to deconstruction

1:02:20 - False expectations

1:08:10 - American evangelical leadership crisis

1:15:23 - Honesty in disillusionment

1:24:56 - Credits

Other resources mentioned:

Voxology podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com

The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Welcome to the Holy Post. On recent shows, we've talked about gun control policies,
0:04.7	and we've got some listener feedback to those episodes. And we also talk about the appeal to
0:09.4	self-defense used by those who oppose more gun control. They say that we have a god-given
0:14.4	and constitutional right to defend ourselves with lethal force if necessary. But is there any
0:19.6	real evidence to back that claim? This week, because Caitlin and Christian are both away,
0:24.6	Phil and I have invited our friend Mike Erie, the host of the Voxology podcast,
0:29.2	to join us for a biblical discussion about Christian self-defense. Then I talk to author
0:34.7	Lena Abujamra about her new book, Fractured Faith, finding your way back to faith in an age of
0:40.4	deconstruction. She talks about how deconstruction is often triggered not by cultural doubts about
0:45.6	Christianity, but rather a toxic church leadership culture that leaves many of us wounded and questioning
0:51.9	our faith. All of that, plus California declares that bees are fish and scientists engineered violent
0:58.5	murder hamsters. Just a quick heads up about content for this episode because we are talking about
1:03.4	gun violence again, we are also dealing with issues of suicide. So if that's a sensitive topic
1:08.4	for you, I'd again encourage you to skip ahead to the interview and come back and listen to the
1:12.3	new segment later. All right, here is episode 512. Hey, they're welcome back to the Holypost
1:17.5	podcast. I'm Phil Vischer. I'm here with Skyge, Tony. Hi, Sky. Hi, Phil. Hi. And we don't have
1:23.6	a Caitlin and we don't have a Christian because they're both out of the country. So we brought in an
1:29.2	eerie. We have my eerie. I'm just saying, third choice is pretty amazing. And I have a confession.
1:38.9	I have a confession, Phil. What's your confession, Mike? Well, Sky has on his Twitter bio that he
1:47.4	is ethnically ambiguous. Yeah. And I just, I feel like I need to clarify, I am ethically ambiguous.
1:55.1	And I just felt like I wanted to get that out there just at the start. So we can just sort of
2:01.5	warn the listeners. Can you put that in your Twitter bio, Mike? You know, I should and see
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Phil Vischer, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Phil Vischer and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.