It's Wednesday, the 26th of June. I'm Martin Yelling. He's Tom Williams. This is episode 494 of Marathon Talk. So, I'm going to On this week's show I speak to Australian Olympic distance coach Nick Bido

Ali Brownlee runs his first marathon as part of a sort of duathlon and

qualifies for the Hawaii Iron Man.

Tokyo, plan for the Olympic heat, Ben Pochy drops in to talk the night of the

10,000 meter pbbs.

Tony's here with some trials, you rock kick it around the world climb aboard the

launch pad stand on the podium rate your runs Tom Williams what you've been

doing I tell you what I've been doing nothing that remotely resembles running why not

are you you in full full-off mode? Full-home mode.

Full-homer mode. Are you?

Honestly, it's funny really, like, I feel, like, and this is normal for me, but it's still a bit odd. I feel like I've never even been a runner,

like I'm not interested. On Sunday morning, Hell's went out for a few miles before we went off to the park and so I'm just off for a quick three miles and I'm like oh dear have a nice run and it's like I'm a total non-running have never run like running widow spouse type thing.

Do you know what I mean?

Where one person runs in, otherwise there's no

inkling of me. I went down to London the other day for work overnight and we, you know,

normally me and my mate James would go for a run or something. Might run with Nick?

Put your trainers?

No.

It's like I just...

Honestly, I can't imagine myself ever running again.

It's actually, Comrade has actually removed my running gene if there was one.

It's taken the... It's gone.

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