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on december the 22nd and uh which is basically December January and February the rainy months

and we've been in a drought forever here which is what uh kind of fed the whole fire because

everything was so dry but i mean it just completely burned it up there and so there was nothing but this kind of fed the whole fire because everything was so dry. And I mean, it just completely burned it up there.

And so there was nothing but this kind of layer of ash and, you know, hardened soil.

And so then on the night of January the night, or the early morning of January the night,

there came this really huge rainfall in the space of about five minutes i mean it's just

a cloud burst for five minutes up in the mountains and it hit this this ash and the ash combined with

the you know the dirt underneath made this stuff that was a consistency of uh of you know

poured concrete, basically.

And it came tearing down through these streams, and it floated up boulders that were

bigger than houses out of the streams.

I mean, it was unbelievable.

And they came tearing down through and just tearing up houses and killing people along

the way and in our little community right here, which isn't very big. There were 23 people killed. Holy cow. You know, all the space of just a few minutes. Where do you live at, Dr. Eates? In Montecito, California. Montecito, okay. So that's up north a bit. Okay. So I'm farther south kind of kind of for you i'm in a place called dana point which is uh no dana point well yeah so just down the road so well it's a pleasure jack are we recording yeah we're rolling so we're rolling so we're rolling so we got the mudslides store yeah that's awesome so's absolutely, first of all, it's an honor to have you on here.

You know, I've kind of followed some of your stuff for years now. I've watched a number of your presentations. I'm sure, you know, and you look very youthful, by the way, but I'm sure if someone who's been around the block for a while, you've seen this stuff come and go and, you know, you've just been watching this low-car, you know, stuff evolve and, you know,

kind of go back and forth over the years.

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