It's

Tom Williams. It's Tom Williams and this is episode 409 of Marathon Talk. I'm going to do. On this week's show we're back in the driving seats and I'm back from an incredible

trip to Kenya with five talents and share all the news as well as catch up with

marathon talk listeners on the trip Ben Foster Nicki Chamberlain as well as Nick Kershaw from

Impact Marathons and Rachel Linley from Five Talent.

The New York City Marathon's short, saw the first female American champ for 40 years.

Olympic champ Jemimis Sumbong gets a doping ban upheld. British Paris Sport is in classification turmoil.

Training talk is sponsored by Runderware we catch up with their founder Richard Edmonds.

You rate your run. Show off your kit, stand on the podium.

Oh, Tom Williams, we're both back in the room.

Welcome back, Dadio.

Well, you too, you were absent last week. our wives did a takeover.

Yeah, absent without leave.

Hey, they did really well, didn't they?

I don't know if you've listened to it.

I have listened to it.

I listened to it.

I thought it was great.

We didn't get too much grief which I thought was good they were

they were reasonably kind to us and didn't wander off the point too much didn't say

really or you know too much either but yeah it was good it was it was good it was good. It was good to it was good to hear them and yeah

I tell it it'd be good to do that kind of thing more often wouldn't it don't you

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