My husband barely talks to me all day and then gets into bed and expects me to go 0-60 immediately.

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So our whole episode today is about what comes first? Physical intimacy or emotional intimacy,

but I think I'm going to just blow up the whole episode and say, wow.

Actually, what needs to come first is dance intimacy.

Oh.

Our pre-recording ritual of Zander dancing really took a turn today. There was a new move that was

added. Oh, it's kind of an aerial butt shake. It's like a butt rotation.

A jump in the air with a hip thrust. There was even a hackysack kick action going on.

You actually did this for the first time last night. You picked up a dog toy with your feet

and threw it into the air. Like, do people still do hackysack?

Do people, are people going to know what I'm talking about or am I dating myself?

It's also, it's also a soccer move.

Lame in mind that I'm thinking of it as a hackysack thing rather than a soccer thing.

I don't know. It says a lot. Oh, it's pretty bad. But anyway, I really enjoy it. It's a pretty great move.

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