What's up, guys? So welcome to the Chiu-Jitsu podcast episode number. What are we at now, Eugene?

32. 32. How do I don't know this? Today, guys, we have a really fun one for you, at least it's fun for me. So this is one of my buddies, Jason. Jason was one of my main training partners for a number of the years back when I was a brown and black belt. And he's one of the

guys that I had some of my formative experiences as I was moving to that expert level of grappling.

We traveled together and competed together numerous times. And, you know, a lot of my game,

you know, came as a byproduct of training with him, you know.

And so, again, I really was excited to have him on and talk about, you know, Jitsu and everything

else.

Things to know about Jason is that he got started way back in the day, back in the 90s.

He's sort of a, you know, quintessential martial artist, started training in all sorts

of different martial arts, right? Traditional martial arts, jihitsu artist, started training in all sorts of different martial arts,

right, traditional martial arts, jih Tzu boxing, the whole thing.

He's an accomplished musician, and he is also almost blind, right?

So visually impaired, right, is what it would technically be.

But again, he's pretty much functionally blind.

Like when he has to go, if he has to, like his phone has to be up right to his face to read it,

you know, and Jason's a really cool guy in a good sport.

Whenever I used to see him back in the day, whenever I would greet him, he would come up.

He could see me and, you know, make out the blur that was my body. He's, it again, once you, when you hear Jason in a second,

you'll understand he's just got a good sense of humor.

That's the kind of relationship you have,

though.

Like, we're grinding each other's like faces in the mat and just going,

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