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But for those who don't know, Kelly, Kelly, remind us you, you've been doing a basically

at all a zero carb or what I like to call a carnivostite for eight or nine years now, is that

correct?

That's right.

It'll be nine years this October.

And for five years prior to that, I was very close, but still included some artificial

sweeteners.

And it was as close to zero as I thought I was allowed to get

until I met Charles and Charlene and Joe and they did the same for me and I sort of just went

online trying to find out is it even possible to get rid of these last few carbs that I'd really

for five years had started dwindling way down to almost nothing and

felt better and better and you know you know I don't want to interrupt you but I mean you you know

you felt better and better and as we all know that feeling better and better is an obvious sign

of scurvy that's one of the things that yeah yes it's amazing I'm still out.

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