Episode 31: How To Co-Parent with a Narcissist with Lindsey Ellison
The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast
Kate Anthony
4.4 • 575 Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2019
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
This week my colleague, Lindsey Ellison is joining me to talk all about how to co-parent with a narcissist. She is the author of the book, MAGIC Words: How To Get What You Want From a Narcissist. If you have an ex who's a narcissist, you've probably read every book out there about communicating with one. And the advice always given is, go no contact. But for those of us who have to actually co-parent with a narcissist, that's not an option. So what do you do if you have to continue to have a relationship with someone with whom you've struggled to have a relationship for, like, ever?
In this episode, Lindsey and I discuss her step-by-step formula for creating a communication plan and script of empowering magic words that can help neutralize the power struggle that you have when you are co-parenting with a narcissist. She details exactly what to do, how to do it, and why it works. After you listen to this episode (and maybe even grab her book) you'll be armed with information you can use to engage with your narcissistic ex with confidence and authenticity.
Show Highlights
- Lindsey's divorce story, how we're divorce twins and when she realized she was married to a narcissist (4:00)
- What drove Lindsey to write a book about narcissism (7:27)
- No contact messaging and why it's confusing (10:12)
- Act as though every engagement with your narcissistic ex as if it were a business transaction (11:09)
- Realizing you are the CEO of your life, the captain of your ship and in charge (12:53)
- Lindsey's book and the MAGIC formula for getting what you want from a narcissist (17:45)
- You can have guarded compassion and boundaries with empathy (24:04)
- Assessing their fears and mapping their persona; and why doing so is in service to your children (27:06)
- The importance of identifying goals in every engagement you have (28:17)
- Narcissists and mom issues and how nurturing phrases can help with communication (31:03)
- Providing your children with the tools to empower them and help them communicate with a narcissistic parent, without labeling the parent as one (to your children) (46:33)
- Breaking the cycle of narcissism (45:53)
Learn More About Lindsey:
Lindsey Ellison is a relationship coach and founder of Start Over Coaching, Inc. She helps people navigate their divorce or break-up and also helps people break free from narcissistic abuse. Her newest book, MAGIC Words: How to Get What You Want from a Narcissist, offers a step-by-step formula on how to create a communication plan, and provides a script of empowering "magic" words that can neutralize the power struggle.
Links:
Lindsey on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/ThriveWithLindsey/?ref=bookmarks
Lindsey on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/startovercoach
Lindsey on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDQRnkwWkOxZcTNbSEx_q8w
Her book, MAGIC Words: How To Get What You Want From a Narcissist: https://amzn.to/2WfARDF
Start Over and Find Happiness Podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/start-over-find-happiness/id1074313116?mt=2
Should I Stay or Should I Go Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/shouldistayorshouldigo/
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to another episode of the Divorce Survival Guide podcast, where we have real, honest, smart, |
| 0:11.6 | and sometimes even hilarious conversations about co-parenting, separation, and divorce, and all that goes along with that. |
| 0:18.9 | I'm Kate Anthony, your Divorce Survival Guide, |
| 0:21.6 | certified life and relationship coach, |
| 0:23.6 | and happily divorced mom, |
| 0:25.2 | who helps women decide if they should stay in or leave their marriages |
| 0:28.0 | and then guides them through the process one step at a time. |
| 0:35.8 | Hey, loves. |
| 0:37.0 | Thanks for tuning in. Today we have a great episode. My colleague Lindsay Ellison is joining me today. And Lindsay is talking to us about how to actually work with and continue to communicate with someone who is a narcissist. |
| 0:59.6 | And if you are in this situation of having to co-parent with a narcissist, |
| 1:03.7 | you've probably read every book there is out there about communicating with a narcissist or dealing with a narcissist, and it's always go no contact. |
| 1:08.1 | And for those of us who have to actually co-parent with a narcissist, that is |
| 1:12.1 | not an option. And as soon as you get to that point in the book where it's like, go no contact, |
| 1:19.2 | you're like, well, fuck you. Like, I can't do that, right? So what do you do if you have to continue |
| 1:26.0 | to have a relationship? Lindsay is a relationship coach and she is the founder of start overcoaching. |
| 1:32.3 | And she helps people navigate the divorce or breakup and also helps them break free from narcissistic abuse. |
| 1:38.4 | And she's written this book called Magic Words, How to Get What You Want from a Narcissist. And in it she offers a step-by-step formula, how to get what you want from a narcissist. And in it, she offers a step-by-step |
| 1:46.6 | formula on how to create a communication plan. And she provides a script of empowering magic words |
| 1:54.9 | that can neutralize the power struggle that you have when you are co-parenting with a narcissist. |
| 2:03.2 | And I got to tell you, I read this book in maybe an hour, two hours flat. It's brilliant because it's made for busy people. There's not a lot |
| 2:12.0 | of fluff. There's not a lot of backstory. She gets straight to the point. She tells you exactly |
| 2:16.8 | what to do, how to do it, |
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