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Diane Miller, hello.

Do you know how cool Diane Miller is, just to put her on the cool scale?

She's top two on this podcast right now. For example, so I don't even know how to

introduce you, Diane, because I could I could write a novel, I feel like, but I mean, she's so cool

that her and like Matt Fitzgerald just like casually talk for like hours on end on like a random

Friday night, author Matt says, just because they're buddies.

Did you know that?

I didn't because I technically don't actually know her.

So no, that didn't come up in any of our other times we didn't hang out.

You hang out in a pretty cool room, Diane.

But it's impressive.

That's a big name to pick up off the floor there.

It's a pretty cool connection. She mentioned to me the other day, like, yeah, I just talked to Matt

for like an hour last night or whatever. And I didn't even ask you what you talked about. So what did

you guys talk about? Well, I met him at the Endeavour Run camp in Austin last February. And I was having a conversation with Jake that runs the camp.

And we were talking about writing.

And Matt came over and asked if he could join the conversation.

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